To go from a close to dominant position to getting blown out in s very short amount of time is very disconcerting.
Why is Roundtree so slow? He looked like he was pulling a wagon. Technically I think he was down well in side the 1 yard line. If they get a better mark, Brown (given the same run) scores on first down. Those inside runs just aren't Browns specialty. They needed minor in before 4th down. The plays they ran seemed to have too much lateral running and not enough North-South. On 2nd down I thought he could just run right upfield for 6, but he kept running right. Getting no points was very disappointing.
Of course that is no excuse for the defense forgetting how to stop the read option. 378 yards rushing? Mike Williams seemed out of place or making the wrong read on every score. How can there be no better safeties on the roster than Williams and a walk-on?
Next week is another "Biggest Game in RRs career at Michigan". I can't see M having much of a chance @ Wisconsin or against the Buckeyes. As sad as it is to say 6-6 and bid to the Pizza Pizza Bowl is much different than 5-7.
I'm sure they'll be tickets available, want me to pick you up one?
Saturday, October 31, 2009
Should RR Be Fired
When last season started, M played worse than everyone expected. By the end of the season, M was not playing any better than at the beginning of the season.
When this season started, M appeared to be playing better than everyone expected. Now, however, they are playing much worse than early in the season.
It is very concerning that RR's teams don't improve. I thought having a roster with a lot of young players, which he has had both last year and this, meant improvement throughout the year. We haven't seen that. I am laying that squarely on RR.
Besides that, though, I am not sure what to blame directly on RR and what to blame on other things. I don't think Forcier is completely healthy, for instance. And I don't think the talent base was very high when he got here, etc. etc. etc. I just don't know.
I guess the way I look at it is that I am not confident in RR doing anything much different next year than he has done last year and this year. The talent level really doesn't appear to be improving much (best two players on D leaving next year, the WRs just aren't getting better, etc.) and I don't see anything in the innovation area that gives M the advantage that you would think M should have. So, looking at it like that, I guess I would say just dump him and get somebody better.
Which brings me to the problem with that. Is there anyone better? Is there anyone out there that would take the job that would actually be better than RR? And did RR become a bad coach all of a sudden after being successful in every other place he's coached? I just don't know if I believe there is anyone out there that IS better, and I don't don't know if I believe RR is a bad coach.
But, the past 21 games have been the worst 21 game span since a span starting toward the end of the season in 1961 and ending the last game of 1963 (7-12-2). That is 46 years. RR was born between the 62 and 63 seasons. Is RR just not the right coach for Michigan? Is there any coach that is the right coach for Michigan?
So, now what? Really. With no hope for the rest of this season, and little expectation of major improvement next season, I don't know what should be done. I almost hope they find something in the NCAA investigation so the decision to fire him is easy.
Not really.
When this season started, M appeared to be playing better than everyone expected. Now, however, they are playing much worse than early in the season.
It is very concerning that RR's teams don't improve. I thought having a roster with a lot of young players, which he has had both last year and this, meant improvement throughout the year. We haven't seen that. I am laying that squarely on RR.
Besides that, though, I am not sure what to blame directly on RR and what to blame on other things. I don't think Forcier is completely healthy, for instance. And I don't think the talent base was very high when he got here, etc. etc. etc. I just don't know.
I guess the way I look at it is that I am not confident in RR doing anything much different next year than he has done last year and this year. The talent level really doesn't appear to be improving much (best two players on D leaving next year, the WRs just aren't getting better, etc.) and I don't see anything in the innovation area that gives M the advantage that you would think M should have. So, looking at it like that, I guess I would say just dump him and get somebody better.
Which brings me to the problem with that. Is there anyone better? Is there anyone out there that would take the job that would actually be better than RR? And did RR become a bad coach all of a sudden after being successful in every other place he's coached? I just don't know if I believe there is anyone out there that IS better, and I don't don't know if I believe RR is a bad coach.
But, the past 21 games have been the worst 21 game span since a span starting toward the end of the season in 1961 and ending the last game of 1963 (7-12-2). That is 46 years. RR was born between the 62 and 63 seasons. Is RR just not the right coach for Michigan? Is there any coach that is the right coach for Michigan?
So, now what? Really. With no hope for the rest of this season, and little expectation of major improvement next season, I don't know what should be done. I almost hope they find something in the NCAA investigation so the decision to fire him is easy.
Not really.
Friday, October 30, 2009
Stimpy
The best dog in the world is making her final trip to the vet today. Please try to put her in your thoughts later this afternoon.
Many people who aren't "dog people" have told us they'd get a dog if they knew she'd be like Stimpy. Unfortunately for them, but fortunately for us, this humane society special was one-of-a-kind.
When I met Stimpy she was still young enough to play and chase. She loved "Stimpy Runs the Bases Night" after our crappy softball games when she would chase me around the bases to help me shake off the funk of another double-header loss.
She wasn't sure what to think of Hobbes at first. I think she begrudgingly realized he was part of the family. They had their share of territorial battles of each others food dishes, but I think they ultimately got along pretty well. When Hobbes passed and we added Wendell to the family, she once again realized her status as the #1 child was being cut. Wendell is always looking for a bit of warmth and occasionally Stimpy was patient (or tired) enough to put up with him as the picture shows.
I don't know that we'll add another dog into our family. How could they live up to Stimpy, the perfect dog?
I'll miss you Stimpy!
Thursday, October 29, 2009
M vs. Illinois Prediction
Although I still think there is a chance that Illinois figures out some of their problems this week. I think M plays it as a MUST win.
I'll go with M 31, Illinois 17
Other guesses:
Tate takes >85% of the snaps
M rushes for close to 200 yards with at least one back breaking 100.
M wins the turnover battle
I'll go with M 31, Illinois 17
Other guesses:
Tate takes >85% of the snaps
M rushes for close to 200 yards with at least one back breaking 100.
M wins the turnover battle
Wednesday, October 28, 2009
Ryan Ermanni on WDFN
As I have stated before, a sports radio host using "verse" when they mean "versus" is a MAJOR pet peeve of mine. Today WDFN mid-day host Ryan Ermanni was the culprit.
I sent him the following e-mail:
So I replied with:
So I guess I'll either be listening to podcasts, Colin Blowhard or trying to listen to the ticket on the internet.
Edit - just got a response from my first e-mail - maybe I'll give him another chance...
Since I'm talking about sports radio, Stoney will be guest hosting for Sam Webb on WTKA the next two mornings, I wonder what that will be like without Wojo to offset some of his Stoneyisms...
I sent him the following e-mail:
He read my e-mail on the air and said something along the lines of "Get a life, I'll say a lot worse things this is no big deal."From: Mike Altese
To: ryane@clearchannel.com
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 10:53:19 AM
Subject: versus is not the plural of verse
C'mon Ryan, you work in sports for a living. When two teams play each other, please say "versus" not "verse". It is a real pet peeve of mine. I can't believe how many sports radio personalities make this mistake.
So I replied with:
From: Mike Altese
To: ryane@clearchannel.com
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 11:08:35 AM
Subject: Re: versus is not the plural of verse
thanks, you're right - radio off, now. Life gotten...
So I guess I'll either be listening to podcasts, Colin Blowhard or trying to listen to the ticket on the internet.
Edit - just got a response from my first e-mail - maybe I'll give him another chance...
sorry mike, when your talking for two straight hours there are a lot of mistakes that i make... if that's the worst one i had a good day
Ryan Ermanni
Host: Ermanni Middays
27675 Halsted
Farmington Hills, MI 48331
ryanermanni@clearchannel.com
Since I'm talking about sports radio, Stoney will be guest hosting for Sam Webb on WTKA the next two mornings, I wonder what that will be like without Wojo to offset some of his Stoneyisms...
Tuesday, October 27, 2009
ESPN Bowl Predictions Vol 9
M has a new bowl option, for the first time they've been picked for the Insight Bowl against Kansas. Feldman still has M facing off with Clemson in the Champs. With the way M looked on Saturday, I think they'd be happy to accept either bowl right now.
Not too much changed in the overall Big1T1en predictions. just a couple changes at the bottom of the conference. Schlabach did drop PSU from the BCS bowl ranks - apparently beating M 35-10 on the road wasn't as impressive as TCU's win in his opinion.
Both have Texas in the BCS Championship game Schlabach has them facing Bama, Feldman has Florida.
Week | Schlabach | Feldman |
---|---|---|
Pre | Champs | PapaJohns.com |
1 | Alamo | Alamo |
2 | Outback | Outback |
3 | Cap One | Outback |
4 | Outback | Outback |
5 | Champs | Champs |
6 | Alamo | Champs |
7 | Champs | Champs |
8 | Insight | Champs |
Not too much changed in the overall Big1T1en predictions. just a couple changes at the bottom of the conference. Schlabach did drop PSU from the BCS bowl ranks - apparently beating M 35-10 on the road wasn't as impressive as TCU's win in his opinion.
Place | Schlabach | Change | Feldman | Change |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Iowa | 0 | Iowa | 0 |
2 | PSU | 0 | PSU | 0 |
3 | OSU | 0 | OSU | 0 |
4 | MSU | +1 | Wisconsin | 0 |
5 | Wisconsin | -1 | MSU | 0 |
6 | Michigan | 0 | Michigan | 0 |
7 | Northwestern | +1 | Minnesota | 0 |
8 | Northwestern | +1 | ||
9 | Indiana | -1 |
Both have Texas in the BCS Championship game Schlabach has them facing Bama, Feldman has Florida.
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Sunday, October 25, 2009
PSU Comments
It didn't look like much fun. I kindof thought from early on it wasn't going well, but M was, more or less, staying with it until the last few minutes of the first half. I was hoping there would be some sort of momentum change in the second and it actually was just more (and worse) of the what happened in the first.
As for the people using my seats, you gave a pretty big age range there. I don't really care if I sell my tickets to the opponent. His money spends just like your sister's does.
I don't know what to make of Forcier. In some cases I think the opposing Ds have figured out what to do (preventing him from leaving the pocket, for instance), in some cases I think the receivers are just not getting open (against Iowa most of his passes had to be perfect for the defender not to knock them down, and he actually made some of those), in some cases I think he is still hurt (he did get up holding his arm once) and in some cases I think his early performances may have been a fluke. In any case, he is still the best option for M and we have seen him do good things in the past. I think we can expect (read hope) he will do that again sometime this year. And if he does it against IL and PU, then M should end up 7-5.
Speaking of records, I have wavered little from my 6-6 prediction. I'm sure there were times I thought 7-5 was more likely, but that loss to MSU put me back to favoring 6-6. I still think M has the ability to play with anyone on the schedule, but after the PSU game, I am less likely to think it is going to happen against WIS and OSU. You have to concerned about the IL putting things together for one game (and the D giving up big plays to IL's big play people), and you can't take PU for granted. I don't expect M to lose the remaining 4, but I'm not so confident that I would put money on a bet like that.
Do you realize that the last 3 home games I didn't attend were blowouts. M is 1-2 in those games. PU is the next home game I don't attend.
I read the first paragraph of Pat Caputo's column this morning's Sunday Oakland Pres and he mentioned that M's improvement we thought we saw in the beginning of the season was a mirage. I didn't read the rest because I think that is absolutely incorrect. Even if Forcier is only a good QB, he is an improvement, and I think the OLine is much better. And I think much of the defence (pronouned di-FENTS) is better, with some big holes. Overall, the team is significantly better. And unless M doesn't make a bowl game, I consider it a successful season. Big steps taken. Next year will be important for RR to keep the fans on his side and his job.
Speaking of which, I haven't heard it yet, but I expect a lot of calls to fire RR.
I agree that there were way too many drops. I think there were 4 by the TEs alone.
I noticed Shaw positioned in the wideout slot for a couple key plays. I didn't realize he was the best receiving RB. Or maybe they were giving the other two a rest and didn't want to give the opponent a clue on formation, so they didn't put another slot receiver in.
The Drob experiment should be over. Putting him for a drive to give the team a spark is the equivalent to running a drive of trick plays to give the team a spark. If it doesn't work, it kills you. A coulple plays here and there is what he is capable of. Don't put him in the situation to have to throw the ball more than once on a drive. Because of that, I say Fire RR. (just kidding)
Pass D. Most of the game I listened to the WTKA broadcast while watching the CC on TV. Beck and Brand talked a lot about Stevie Brown covering a WR man-to-man. That resulted in two of the TDs. I don't know how M could fix that.
And the 15 yard cushion by Warren so evident. It almost looked on the replay that there was some sag-type zone coverage on the WR. Warren wouldn't even be in the picure at the beginning of the WR isolation shot. I don't know.
It was mentioned that Cissoko came in on a key 3rd down near the goal line, moving Woolfolk to safety and taking out Williams. PSU ended up throwing at Warren's man and he had good coverage. I didn't hear about that the rest of the game. I thought I noticed someone playing a WR tight later and I assumed it was Cissoko, but I couldn't see his number. Did he play much?
Kovacs is a good tackler. Most of the time.
During the broadcast, the M announcers said PSU shouldn't have gone for 2 when they took the 15 point lead. They went on and on that after missing it M could score two TDs and two 2-pt conversions and win the game. I think they are idiots. If PSU had made the 2-pt conversion, it would have then been a 3 score game. With it being a 15 point game, if M would have scored a TD, that would make it 9. M would HAVE TO go for 1 to prevent it from continuing to be a 2 score game and give M a chance to tie with another TD and then the 2 point conversion. Really, are they that stupid?
Of course, the reasons none of that mattered are:
-it was early in the second half and PSU had easily moved the ball and you had to expect it was going to happen again
-a FG by either team would have messed up any theories in the 2 point conversion debate
As for the people using my seats, you gave a pretty big age range there. I don't really care if I sell my tickets to the opponent. His money spends just like your sister's does.
I don't know what to make of Forcier. In some cases I think the opposing Ds have figured out what to do (preventing him from leaving the pocket, for instance), in some cases I think the receivers are just not getting open (against Iowa most of his passes had to be perfect for the defender not to knock them down, and he actually made some of those), in some cases I think he is still hurt (he did get up holding his arm once) and in some cases I think his early performances may have been a fluke. In any case, he is still the best option for M and we have seen him do good things in the past. I think we can expect (read hope) he will do that again sometime this year. And if he does it against IL and PU, then M should end up 7-5.
Speaking of records, I have wavered little from my 6-6 prediction. I'm sure there were times I thought 7-5 was more likely, but that loss to MSU put me back to favoring 6-6. I still think M has the ability to play with anyone on the schedule, but after the PSU game, I am less likely to think it is going to happen against WIS and OSU. You have to concerned about the IL putting things together for one game (and the D giving up big plays to IL's big play people), and you can't take PU for granted. I don't expect M to lose the remaining 4, but I'm not so confident that I would put money on a bet like that.
Do you realize that the last 3 home games I didn't attend were blowouts. M is 1-2 in those games. PU is the next home game I don't attend.
I read the first paragraph of Pat Caputo's column this morning's Sunday Oakland Pres and he mentioned that M's improvement we thought we saw in the beginning of the season was a mirage. I didn't read the rest because I think that is absolutely incorrect. Even if Forcier is only a good QB, he is an improvement, and I think the OLine is much better. And I think much of the defence (pronouned di-FENTS) is better, with some big holes. Overall, the team is significantly better. And unless M doesn't make a bowl game, I consider it a successful season. Big steps taken. Next year will be important for RR to keep the fans on his side and his job.
Speaking of which, I haven't heard it yet, but I expect a lot of calls to fire RR.
I agree that there were way too many drops. I think there were 4 by the TEs alone.
I noticed Shaw positioned in the wideout slot for a couple key plays. I didn't realize he was the best receiving RB. Or maybe they were giving the other two a rest and didn't want to give the opponent a clue on formation, so they didn't put another slot receiver in.
The Drob experiment should be over. Putting him for a drive to give the team a spark is the equivalent to running a drive of trick plays to give the team a spark. If it doesn't work, it kills you. A coulple plays here and there is what he is capable of. Don't put him in the situation to have to throw the ball more than once on a drive. Because of that, I say Fire RR. (just kidding)
Pass D. Most of the game I listened to the WTKA broadcast while watching the CC on TV. Beck and Brand talked a lot about Stevie Brown covering a WR man-to-man. That resulted in two of the TDs. I don't know how M could fix that.
And the 15 yard cushion by Warren so evident. It almost looked on the replay that there was some sag-type zone coverage on the WR. Warren wouldn't even be in the picure at the beginning of the WR isolation shot. I don't know.
It was mentioned that Cissoko came in on a key 3rd down near the goal line, moving Woolfolk to safety and taking out Williams. PSU ended up throwing at Warren's man and he had good coverage. I didn't hear about that the rest of the game. I thought I noticed someone playing a WR tight later and I assumed it was Cissoko, but I couldn't see his number. Did he play much?
Kovacs is a good tackler. Most of the time.
During the broadcast, the M announcers said PSU shouldn't have gone for 2 when they took the 15 point lead. They went on and on that after missing it M could score two TDs and two 2-pt conversions and win the game. I think they are idiots. If PSU had made the 2-pt conversion, it would have then been a 3 score game. With it being a 15 point game, if M would have scored a TD, that would make it 9. M would HAVE TO go for 1 to prevent it from continuing to be a 2 score game and give M a chance to tie with another TD and then the 2 point conversion. Really, are they that stupid?
Of course, the reasons none of that mattered are:
-it was early in the second half and PSU had easily moved the ball and you had to expect it was going to happen again
-a FG by either team would have messed up any theories in the 2 point conversion debate
Saturday, October 24, 2009
Penn State game
That was not very much fun. The people in your seats were a 40-50 year old man and his 10-15 year old daughter. They were Penn State fans. The girl had a little pom-pom on a stick that kept dowsing us with water every time she shook it - which unfortunately was often. Nice job selling your tickets to he enemy...
Now to the game. Other than the last few minutes against MSU, Forcier has not played well since his last drive against Indiana. I don't know how much is the tougher opposition and how much is just not playing as well. Maybe he should have played more last week just to get some more reps.
There were way too many drops from the receivers today. The passes were not perfect, for the most part but they were catchable. Kelvin Grady dropped another third down conversion pass early in the game that would have been nice to have.
I don't think DRob should be a "this drive is yours" guy at this point. I think it would be better if he came in and Forcier moved out to WR etc. He's just too limited to have the full offense rely on him.
Defensively, there is so much help needed. Brandon Graham deserves better. He can be dominant at times. I think the rest of the DLine is promising. RVB, Roh and Martin have made some plays this season. Mouton and Ezeh have regressed. They make bad reads, miss tackles and can't run with RBs.
Moving Kovacs to the deep safety took him out of his strength - crashing down on runs. Williams missed a few tackles that Kovacs seemed to make in the past. Neither seem to be very good in coverage, so lets get Kovacs back into the run stopper safety and at least get that back.
How many times did M give up the quick pass because the corners (particularly Warren) were 15 yards off? If he is supposed to be such a lockdown corner, why does he need that cushion?
At this point if someone promised me M would finish 7-5, I'd take it. They look beaten.
Now to the game. Other than the last few minutes against MSU, Forcier has not played well since his last drive against Indiana. I don't know how much is the tougher opposition and how much is just not playing as well. Maybe he should have played more last week just to get some more reps.
There were way too many drops from the receivers today. The passes were not perfect, for the most part but they were catchable. Kelvin Grady dropped another third down conversion pass early in the game that would have been nice to have.
I don't think DRob should be a "this drive is yours" guy at this point. I think it would be better if he came in and Forcier moved out to WR etc. He's just too limited to have the full offense rely on him.
Defensively, there is so much help needed. Brandon Graham deserves better. He can be dominant at times. I think the rest of the DLine is promising. RVB, Roh and Martin have made some plays this season. Mouton and Ezeh have regressed. They make bad reads, miss tackles and can't run with RBs.
Moving Kovacs to the deep safety took him out of his strength - crashing down on runs. Williams missed a few tackles that Kovacs seemed to make in the past. Neither seem to be very good in coverage, so lets get Kovacs back into the run stopper safety and at least get that back.
How many times did M give up the quick pass because the corners (particularly Warren) were 15 yards off? If he is supposed to be such a lockdown corner, why does he need that cushion?
At this point if someone promised me M would finish 7-5, I'd take it. They look beaten.
Another S and S Poll question
What word best describes the quality of play in the Big Ten?
Parity
Crap
I am not going to answer that one because it is obviously Sharp's way to promote his anti-Big Ten-ism which is somewhat justified, but also overblown. My only comment is that a couple weeks ago he mentioned that the Big Ten is overrated. I think he believes, or wants to believe, that there are people who think the Big Ten is one of the best 2 or 3 conferences. Only an idiot would believe it. I think the Big Ten is probably a below the SEC, Big 12 and Pac 10 right now. They are probably slightly ahead of or maybe even with the ACC/Big East (they will always be the same thing to me). In other words, the Big Ten is a below average major conference. A couple good bowl years would change that perception.
As far as the question itself (no, I'm not going to answer it), I don't think the two possible answers are even related. Parity means the teams are at the same level AS EACH OTHER and Crap implies the league is worse than OTHER LEAGUES.
As far as Sharp and his general negativity about most things M and Big Ten, I've come to realize that his opinions are made to create controversy, make people hate him, etc. Generally, he is the sportwriter that cares about one thing....Championships. If M wins a MNC or a team in the Big Ten wins a MNC, then his opinion would change. He cares about nothing else. He all but said the Wings had a bad season last year. He said the M-MSU game meant nothing this season. etc etc. He only cares about winning it all. It is a horrible way to look at things when you are a sports writer. And it is a horrible way to keep emotional fans (like all of us) interested. If M goes 7-5 this year, anyone who says it was an unsuccessful season will not have much credibility, because I know better.
Parity
Crap
I am not going to answer that one because it is obviously Sharp's way to promote his anti-Big Ten-ism which is somewhat justified, but also overblown. My only comment is that a couple weeks ago he mentioned that the Big Ten is overrated. I think he believes, or wants to believe, that there are people who think the Big Ten is one of the best 2 or 3 conferences. Only an idiot would believe it. I think the Big Ten is probably a below the SEC, Big 12 and Pac 10 right now. They are probably slightly ahead of or maybe even with the ACC/Big East (they will always be the same thing to me). In other words, the Big Ten is a below average major conference. A couple good bowl years would change that perception.
As far as the question itself (no, I'm not going to answer it), I don't think the two possible answers are even related. Parity means the teams are at the same level AS EACH OTHER and Crap implies the league is worse than OTHER LEAGUES.
As far as Sharp and his general negativity about most things M and Big Ten, I've come to realize that his opinions are made to create controversy, make people hate him, etc. Generally, he is the sportwriter that cares about one thing....Championships. If M wins a MNC or a team in the Big Ten wins a MNC, then his opinion would change. He cares about nothing else. He all but said the Wings had a bad season last year. He said the M-MSU game meant nothing this season. etc etc. He only cares about winning it all. It is a horrible way to look at things when you are a sports writer. And it is a horrible way to keep emotional fans (like all of us) interested. If M goes 7-5 this year, anyone who says it was an unsuccessful season will not have much credibility, because I know better.
Shep and Sharp's Poll Question 102209
Who has a better chance at winning Saturday?
Michigan
Michigan State
I think that is a great question. I think M has a better chance at keeping the game close. I think the likely goes something like this...
PSU beats M in a close one
IA beats MSU (close or even a blowout)
MSU beats IA in a close one
M beats PSU in a close one
As you can see, I think the M-PSU game is going to be close. I think MSU could get blown out, or could win or lose in a close one. Really, I guess that means I have no idea about either game.
My answer to the poll question: M
Michigan
Michigan State
I think that is a great question. I think M has a better chance at keeping the game close. I think the likely goes something like this...
PSU beats M in a close one
IA beats MSU (close or even a blowout)
MSU beats IA in a close one
M beats PSU in a close one
As you can see, I think the M-PSU game is going to be close. I think MSU could get blown out, or could win or lose in a close one. Really, I guess that means I have no idea about either game.
My answer to the poll question: M
Friday, October 23, 2009
Update to the All-time college football mythical traveling trophy
As discussed here we have been trying to track the ownership of the mythical all-time traveling trophy in college football going back to the original Rutgers-Princeton match-up in 1869.
I sent for help to Greg from MVictors he gave me some good ideas to continue searching including finding a WV Wesleyan game we had missed. A 3-0 loss to Lehigh in 1925. There is still work to be done. I've posted the updated chain below.
The major areas of discomfort are the WV Wesleyan area in 1925. If this holds up the next problem might be in 1931-32 when the cup passes into the hands of Olympia Club. I was able to find a relatively quick loss for them, but over what would be a full season I can only find 3-4 games for them. Since I'm not sure what the Olympia Club was, it is certainly possible that I've missed some of their games.
Here's the updated trail of the cup:
Sources include the James Howell database of scores, the College Football Data Warehouse, various media guides from small colleges in Pennsylvania and as mentioned above some help from Greg from MVictors.
I sent for help to Greg from MVictors he gave me some good ideas to continue searching including finding a WV Wesleyan game we had missed. A 3-0 loss to Lehigh in 1925. There is still work to be done. I've posted the updated chain below.
The major areas of discomfort are the WV Wesleyan area in 1925. If this holds up the next problem might be in 1931-32 when the cup passes into the hands of Olympia Club. I was able to find a relatively quick loss for them, but over what would be a full season I can only find 3-4 games for them. Since I'm not sure what the Olympia Club was, it is certainly possible that I've missed some of their games.
Here's the updated trail of the cup:
Date won | date lost | Holder | Games | W | L | T |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
11/6/1869 | 11/13/1869 | Rutgers | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
11/13/1869 | 11/30/1876 | Princeton | 11 | 10 | 1 | 0 |
11/30/1876 | 11/28/1878 | Yale | 11 | 9 | 1 | 1 |
11/28/1878 | 11/18/1882 | Princeton | 26 | 21 | 1 | 4 |
11/18/1882 | 11/25/1882 | Harvard | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
11/25/1882 | 11/21/1885 | Yale | 27 | 25 | 1 | 1 |
11/21/1885 | 11/12/1887 | Princeton | 17 | 15 | 1 | 1 |
11/12/1887 | 11/24/1887 | Harvard | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
11/24/1887 | 11/28/1889 | Yale | 30 | 29 | 1 | 0 |
11/28/1889 | 11/27/1890 | Princeton | 14 | 12 | 1 | 1 |
11/27/1890 | 11/30/1893 | Yale | 37 | 36 | 1 | 0 |
11/30/1893 | 11/10/1894 | Princeton | 8 | 7 | 1 | 0 |
11/10/1894 | 10/24/1896 | Penn | 26 | 25 | 1 | 0 |
10/24/1896 | 10/23/1897 | Lafayette | 13 | 11 | 1 | 1 |
10/23/1897 | 11/5/1898 | Penn | 16 | 15 | 1 | 0 |
11/5/1898 | 11/24/1900 | Harvard | 24 | 22 | 1 | 1 |
11/24/1900 | 11/23/1901 | Yale | 13 | 11 | 1 | 1 |
11/23/1901 | 11/22/1902 | Harvard | 13 | 11 | 1 | 1 |
11/22/1902 | 11/14/1903 | Yale | 12 | 11 | 1 | 0 |
11/14/1903 | 10/15/1904 | Princeton | 6 | 5 | 1 | 0 |
10/15/1904 | 10/29/1904 | Navy | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
10/29/1904 | 10/7/1905 | Swarthmore | 3 | 2 | 1 | 0 |
10/7/1905 | 10/13/1906 | Penn | 15 | 12 | 1 | 2 |
10/13/1906 | 11/10/1906 | Swarthmore | 4 | 3 | 1 | 0 |
11/10/1906 | 10/19/1907 | Navy | 9 | 7 | 1 | 1 |
10/19/1907 | 11/9/2007 | Harvard | 3 | 2 | 1 | 0 |
11/9/2007 | 11/7/1908 | Carlisle | 10 | 8 | 1 | 1 |
11/7/1908 | 11/20/1909 | Harvard | 11 | 10 | 1 | 0 |
11/20/1909 | 10/15/1910 | Yale | 5 | 4 | 1 | 0 |
10/15/1910 | 10/29/1910 | Army | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
10/29/1910 | 11/4/1911 | Harvard | 9 | 7 | 1 | 1 |
11/4/1911 | 11/2/1912 | Princeton | 9 | 8 | 1 | 0 |
11/2/1912 | 10/23/1915 | Harvard | 26 | 23 | 1 | 2 |
10/23/1915 | 10/28/1916 | Cornell | 8 | 7 | 1 | 0 |
10/28/1916 | 11/18/1916 | Harvard | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
11/18/1916 | 11/25/1916 | Brown | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/25/1916 | 10/27/1917 | Colgate | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
10/27/1917 | 11/3/1917 | Brown | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/3/1917 | 11/16/1918 | Syracuse | 8 | 7 | 1 | |
11/16/1918 | 10/25/1919 | MICHIGAN | 5 | 4 | 1 | |
10/25/1919 | 11/22/1919 | OSU | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
11/22/1919 | 11/13/1920 | Illinois | 6 | 5 | 1 | |
11/13/1920 | 11/19/1921 | Wisconsin | 8 | 6 | 1 | 1 |
11/19/1921 | 10/28/1922 | Chicago | 4 | 3 | 1 | |
10/28/1922 | 10/20/1923 | Princeton | 6 | 5 | 1 | |
10/20/1923 | 11/10/1923 | Notre Dame | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
11/10/1923 | 11/24/1923 | Nebraska | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
11/24/1923 | 11/8/1924 | Syracuse | 7 | 5 | 1 | 1 |
11/8/1924 | 10/17/1925 | West Virginia Wesleyan | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
10/17/1925 | 10/31/1925 | Lehigh | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
10/31/1925 | 11/26/1925 | Mulenberg (PA) | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
11/26/1925 | 9/25/1926 | Villanova | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/25/1926 | 10/2/1926 | Lebanon Valley (PA) | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/2/1926 | 10/16/1926 | Penn State | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
10/16/1926 | 11/27/1926 | Notre Dame | 6 | 5 | 1 | |
11/27/1926 | 10/15/1927 | Carnegie Tech | 4 | 3 | 1 | |
10/15/1927 | 10/13/1928 | Washington & Jefferson | 8 | 5 | 1 | 2 |
10/13/1928 | 10/27/1928 | Duquesne | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
10/27/1928 | ? | Geneva (PA) | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
? | 11/17/1928 | Grove City | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
11/17/1928 | 11/9/1929 | Villanova | 8 | 6 | 1 | 1 |
11/9/1929 | 11/23/1929 | Bucknell | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
11/23/1929 | 11/15/1930 | Fordham | 8 | 7 | 1 | |
11/15/1930 | 11/7/1931 | St. Mary's | 8 | 7 | 1 | |
11/7/1931 | 9/17/1932 | Olympic Club | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/17/1932 | 10/22/1932 | Stanford | 5 | 4 | 1 | |
10/22/1932 | 11/11/1933 | USC | 13 | 11 | 1 | 1 |
11/11/1933 | 1/1/1934 | Stanford | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
1/1/1934 | 10/20/1934 | Columbia | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
10/20/1934 | 11/17/1934 | Navy | 4 | 3 | 1 | |
11/17/1934 | 10/19/1935 | Pittsburgh | 5 | 4 | 1 | |
10/19/1935 | 11/19/1935 | Notre Dame | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
11/19/1935 | 11/21/1936 | Northwestern | 10 | 8 | 1 | 1 |
11/21/1936 | 10/16/1937 | Notre Dame | 4 | 1 | 1 | 2 |
10/16/1937 | 10/23/1937 | Carnegie Tech | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/23/1937 | 11/6/1937 | Temple | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
11/6/1937 | 1/1/1938 | Michigan St | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
1/1/1938 | 10/8/1938 | Auburn | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
10/8/1938 | 1/1/1940 | Tennessee | 19 | 18 | 1 | |
1/1/1940 | 10/26/1940 | USC | 5 | 2 | 1 | 2 |
10/26/1940 | 10/11/1941 | Stanford | 8 | 7 | 1 | |
10/11/1941 | 10/25/1941 | Oregon State | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/25/1941 | 12/6/1941 | Washington St | 5 | 4 | 1 | |
12/6/1941 | 1/1/1942 | Texas A&M | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
1/1/1942 | 10/31/1942 | Alabama | 6 | 5 | 1 | |
10/31/1942 | 11/21/1942 | Georgia | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
11/21/1942 | 10/14/1944 | Auburn | 4 | 3 | 1 | |
10/14/1944 | 11/4/1944 | Georgia Tech | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
11/4/1944 | 10/6/1945 | Duke | 7 | 6 | 1 | |
10/6/1945 | 12/1/1945 | Navy | 7 | 5 | 1 | 1 |
12/1/1945 | 10/25/1947 | Army | 15 | 12 | 1 | 2 |
10/25/1947 | 10/2/1948 | Columbia | 6 | 5 | 1 | |
10/2/1948 | 10/9/1948 | Harvard | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/9/1948 | 10/23/1948 | Cornell | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
10/23/1948 | 12/2/1950 | Army | 22 | 20 | 1 | 1 |
12/2/1950 | 10/6/1951 | Navy | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
10/6/1951 | 10/11/1952 | Princeton | 10 | 9 | 1 | |
10/11/1952 | 11/1/1952 | Penn | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
11/1/1952 | 11/8/1952 | Penn State | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/8/1952 | 1/1/1953 | Syracuse | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
1/1/1953 | 9/18/1953 | Alabama | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/18/1953 | 10/31/1953 | So. Mississippi | 5 | 4 | 1 | |
10/31/1953 | 11/7/1953 | Memphis | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/7/1953 | 10/2/1954 | Arkansas St | 6 | 4 | 1 | 1 |
10/2/1954 | 10/15/1954 | Mississippi St | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
10/15/1954 | 11/6/1954 | Miami (FL) | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
11/6/1954 | 10/29/1955 | Auburn | 10 | 8 | 1 | 1 |
10/29/1955 | 11/12/1955 | Tulane | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
11/12/1955 | 11/26/1955 | Vanderbilt | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
11/26/1955 | 1/1/1957 | Tennessee | 11 | 10 | 1 | |
1/1/1957 | 10/5/1957 | Baylor | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
10/5/1957 | 10/11/1957 | Miami (FL) | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/11/1957 | 10/19/1957 | North Carolina | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/19/1957 | 10/26/1957 | Maryland | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/26/1957 | 11/16/1957 | Tennessee | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
11/16/1957 | 11/1/1958 | Mississippi | 9 | 7 | 1 | 1 |
11/1/1958 | 11/7/1959 | LSU | 12 | 11 | 1 | |
11/7/1959 | 11/14/1959 | Tennessee | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/14/1959 | 11/4/1961 | Mississippi | 20 | 18 | 1 | 1 |
11/4/1961 | 11/3/1962 | LSU | 11 | 9 | 1 | 1 |
11/3/1962 | 1/1/1964 | Mississippi | 14 | 11 | 1 | 2 |
1/1/1964 | 1/1/1965 | Alabama | 11 | 10 | 1 | |
1/1/1965 | 10/16/1965 | Texas | 5 | 4 | 1 | |
10/16/1965 | 1/1/1966 | Arkansas | 6 | 5 | 1 | |
1/1/1966 | 9/24/1966 | LSU | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
9/24/1966 | 10/1/1966 | Rice | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/1/1966 | 10/8/1966 | Tennessee | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/8/1966 | 11/26/1966 | Georgia Tech | 6 | 5 | 1 | |
11/26/1966 | 10/14/1967 | Georgia | 5 | 4 | 1 | |
10/14/1967 | 11/18/1967 | Mississippi | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 |
11/18/1967 | 1/1/1968 | Tennessee | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
1/1/1968 | 9/21/1968 | Oklahoma | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/21/1968 | 9/28/1968 | Notre Dame | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/28/1968 | 10/12/1968 | Purdue | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
10/12/1968 | 11/22/1969 | OSU | 16 | 15 | 1 | |
11/22/1969 | 1/1/1970 | MICHIGAN | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
1/1/1970 | 10/10/1970 | USC | 5 | 3 | 1 | 1 |
10/10/1970 | 11/14/1970 | Stanford | 5 | 4 | 1 | |
11/14/1970 | 11/21/1970 | Air Force | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/21/1970 | 12/12/1970 | Colorado | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
12/12/1970 | 9/18/1971 | Tulane | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
9/18/1971 | 11/13/1971 | Georgia | 8 | 7 | 1 | |
11/13/1971 | 11/27/1971 | Auburn | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/27/1971 | 1/1/1972 | Alabama | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
1/1/1972 | 9/9/1972 | Nebraska | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/9/1972 | 9/23/1972 | UCLA | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
9/23/1972 | 11/25/1972 | MICHIGAN | 9 | 8 | 1 | |
11/25/1972 | 1/1/1973 | OSU | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
1/1/1973 | 10/27/1973 | USC | 7 | 5 | 1 | 1 |
10/27/1973 | 9/28/1974 | Notre Dame | 8 | 7 | 1 | |
9/28/1974 | 10/5/1974 | Purdue | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/5/1974 | 10/19/1974 | Duke | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
10/19/1974 | 10/26/1974 | Clemson | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/26/1974 | 9/20/1975 | Tennessee | 7 | 5 | 1 | 1 |
9/20/1975 | 10/4/1975 | UCLA | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
10/4/1975 | 1/1/1976 | OSU | 8 | 7 | 1 | |
1/1/1976 | 11/20/1976 | UCLA | 11 | 9 | 1 | 1 |
11/20/1976 | 10/8/1977 | USC | 7 | 6 | 1 | |
10/8/1977 | 9/23/1978 | Alabama | 10 | 9 | 1 | |
9/23/1978 | 10/14/1978 | USC | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
10/14/1978 | 10/28/1978 | Arizona St | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/28/1978 | 11/11/1978 | Washington | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
11/11/1978 | 11/15/1980 | USC | 25 | 22 | 1 | 2 |
11/15/1980 | 1/1/1981 | Washington | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
1/1/1981 | 9/12/1981 | MICHIGAN | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/12/1981 | 9/19/1981 | Wisconsin | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/19/1981 | 9/26/1981 | UCLA | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/26/1981 | 10/24/1981 | Iowa | 4 | 3 | 1 | |
10/24/1981 | 10/31/1981 | Minnesota | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/31/1981 | 11/21/1981 | MICHIGAN | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
11/21/1981 | 9/25/1982 | OSU | 4 | 3 | 1 | |
9/25/1982 | 10/9/1982 | Stanford | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
10/9/1982 | 11/13/1982 | Arizona St | 4 | 3 | 1 | |
11/13/1982 | 11/20/1982 | Washington | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/20/1982 | 9/10/1983 | Washington St | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
9/10/1983 | 9/17/1983 | MICHIGAN | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/17/1983 | 9/24/1983 | Washington | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/24/1983 | 10/1/1983 | LSU | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/1/1983 | 10/29/1983 | Florida | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
10/29/1983 | 8/27/1984 | Auburn | 5 | 4 | 1 | |
8/27/1984 | 9/8/1984 | Miami (FL) | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
9/8/1984 | 9/15/1984 | MICHIGAN | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/15/1984 | 11/10/1984 | Washington | 8 | 7 | 1 | |
11/10/1984 | 11/17/1984 | USC | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/17/1984 | 9/28/1985 | UCLA | 5 | 3 | 1 | 1 |
9/28/1985 | 10/19/1985 | Washington | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
10/19/1985 | 11/2/1985 | Oregon State | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/2/1985 | 11/9/1985 | Arizona | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/9/1985 | 11/23/1985 | UCLA | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
11/23/1985 | 12/28/1985 | USC | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
12/28/1985 | 10/25/1986 | Alabama | 8 | 7 | 1 | |
10/25/1986 | 9/12/1987 | Penn State | 7 | 6 | 1 | |
9/12/1987 | 9/19/1987 | Alabama | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/19/1987 | 10/3/1987 | Florida | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
10/3/1987 | 11/7/1987 | LSU | 4 | 3 | 1 | |
11/7/1987 | 11/14/1987 | Alabama | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/14/1987 | 11/21/1987 | Notre Dame | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/21/1987 | 1/1/1988 | Penn State | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
1/1/1988 | 9/17/1988 | Clemson | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
9/17/1988 | 9/2/1989 | Florida St | 10 | 9 | 1 | |
9/2/1989 | 9/9/1989 | So. Mississippi | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/9/1989 | 9/23/1989 | Mississippi St | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/23/1989 | 9/30/1989 | Georgia | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/30/1989 | 10/28/1989 | South Carolina | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
10/28/1989 | 11/4/1989 | NC State | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/4/1989 | 1/1/1990 | Virginia | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
1/1/1990 | 9/8/1990 | Illinois | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/8/1990 | 9/29/1990 | Arizona | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
9/29/1990 | 10/27/1990 | California | 4 | 3 | 1 | |
10/27/1990 | 11/10/1990 | Washington | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
11/10/1990 | 11/17/1990 | UCLA | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/17/1990 | 11/24/1990 | USC | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/24/1990 | 1/1/1991 | Notre Dame | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
1/1/1991 | 9/14/1991 | Colorado | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
9/14/1991 | 10/12/1991 | Baylor | 4 | 3 | 1 | |
10/12/1991 | 10/19/1991 | Rice | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/19/1991 | 10/26/1991 | TCU | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/26/1991 | 11/16/1991 | Baylor | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
11/16/1991 | 9/3/1992 | Texas Tech | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
9/3/1992 | 9/19/1992 | Oklahoma | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
9/19/1992 | 10/3/1992 | USC | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/3/1992 | 11/7/1992 | Washington | 5 | 4 | 1 | |
11/7/1992 | 11/14/1992 | Arizona | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/14/1992 | 11/21/1992 | USC | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/21/1992 | 9/4/1993 | UCLA | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/4/1993 | 10/9/1993 | California | 5 | 4 | 1 | |
10/9/1993 | 10/16/1993 | Washington | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/16/1993 | 11/13/1993 | UCLA | 4 | 3 | 1 | |
11/13/1993 | 11/26/1993 | Arizona St | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/26/1993 | 10/8/1994 | Arizona | 6 | 5 | 1 | |
10/8/1994 | 10/22/1994 | Colorado St | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
10/22/1994 | 11/5/1994 | Utah | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
11/5/1994 | 11/12/1994 | New Mexico | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/12/1994 | 9/9/1995 | Wyoming | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
9/9/1995 | 9/16/1995 | Air Force | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/16/1995 | 9/30/1995 | Colorado St | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
9/30/1995 | 10/14/1995 | BYU | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/14/1995 | 11/24/1995 | Arizona St | 4 | 3 | 1 | |
11/24/1995 | 9/7/1996 | Arizona | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
9/7/1996 | 9/21/1996 | Iowa | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
9/21/1996 | 10/19/1996 | Tulsa | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
10/19/1996 | 9/6/1997 | BYU | 8 | 7 | 1 | |
9/6/1997 | 9/20/1997 | Washington | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
9/20/1997 | 10/10/1998 | Nebraska | 16 | 15 | 1 | |
10/10/1998 | 11/27/1998 | Texas A&M | 6 | 5 | 1 | |
11/27/1998 | 8/28/1999 | Texas | 1 | 1 | 0 | |
8/28/1999 | 9/18/1999 | NC State | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
9/18/1999 | 10/7/2000 | Florida St | 15 | 14 | 1 | |
10/7/2000 | 1/3/2003 | Miami (FL) | 32 | 31 | 1 | |
1/3/2003 | 10/11/2003 | OSU | 6 | 5 | 1 | |
10/11/2003 | 10/18/2003 | Wisconsin | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/18/2003 | 10/25/2003 | Purdue | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
10/25/2003 | 1/1/2004 | MICHIGAN | 4 | 3 | 1 | |
1/1/2004 | 1/4/2006 | USC | 26 | 25 | 1 | |
1/4/2006 | 9/9/2006 | Texas | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
9/9/2006 | 1/8/2007 | OSU | 11 | 10 | 1 | |
1/8/2007 | 9/29/2007 | Florida | 5 | 4 | 1 | |
9/29/2007 | 10/20/2007 | Auburn | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
10/20/2007 | 11/23/2007 | LSU | 4 | 3 | 1 | |
11/23/2007 | 1/1/2008 | Arkansas | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
1/1/2008 | 10/11/2008 | Missouri | 6 | 5 | 1 | |
10/11/2008 | 10/25/2008 | Oklahoma St | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
10/25/2008 | 11/1/2008 | Texas | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
11/1/2008 | 11/22/2008 | Texas Tech | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
11/22/2008 | 1/8/2009 | Oklahoma | 3 | 2 | 1 | |
1/8/2009 | 12/5/2009 | Florida | 12 | 12 | 1 |
Sources include the James Howell database of scores, the College Football Data Warehouse, various media guides from small colleges in Pennsylvania and as mentioned above some help from Greg from MVictors.
MVictors post on Bob Bland times
Check out this post from MVictors about the Delaware St. game. Among many great ideas, I particularly like that he timed Bob Bland's trips out to pick up the tee. Very nice!
White Unis
I thought the Iowa game was supposed to feature White Pants. Am I mistaken or was that just a rumour.
Penn State pick based on historical data
M is 159-40-1 in all games I have attended (all data is based on games I have attended unless specifically mentioned)
M is 133-28-1 in games played at Michigan Stadium
M is 8-1 against Penn State
M is 8-2 when facing a team for the 10th time
M is 111-28-1 against conference opponents
M is 39-11 against "state name" State Universities
M is 6-0 when unranked facing a ranked opponent
M is 21-8 when unranked
M is 2-2 against the 13th ranked team
M is 29-10-1 against teams with adjectives commonly used in their nicknames
M is 28-4 against teams with feline nicknames
It is simple when you add it all up:
M 21
PSU 20
M is 133-28-1 in games played at Michigan Stadium
M is 8-1 against Penn State
M is 8-2 when facing a team for the 10th time
M is 111-28-1 against conference opponents
M is 39-11 against "state name" State Universities
M is 6-0 when unranked facing a ranked opponent
M is 21-8 when unranked
M is 2-2 against the 13th ranked team
M is 29-10-1 against teams with adjectives commonly used in their nicknames
M is 28-4 against teams with feline nicknames
It is simple when you add it all up:
M 21
PSU 20
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Thursday, October 22, 2009
ESPN Bowl Predictions Vol 8
Latest ESPN bowl predictions here
M falls to the Champs sports bowl on both predictions:
Both have M facing off with Clemson.
The overall predicted standings are:
In this case both have PSU making it to a BCS bowl. Hopefully M can put an end to that idea Saturday afternoon...
M falls to the Champs sports bowl on both predictions:
Week | Schlabach | Feldman |
---|---|---|
Pre | Champs | PapaJohns.com |
1 | Alamo | Alamo |
2 | Outback | Outback |
3 | Cap One | Outback |
4 | Outback | Outback |
5 | Champs | Champs |
6 | Alamo | Champs |
7 | Champs | Champs |
Both have M facing off with Clemson.
The overall predicted standings are:
Place | Schlabach | Change | Feldman | Change |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Iowa | 0 | Iowa | 0 |
2 | Penn St | +1 | Penn St | +2 |
3 | OSU | -1 | OSU | -1 |
4 | Wisconsin | 0 | Wisconsin | -1 |
5 | MSU | +2 | MSU | +2 |
6 | Michigan | -1 | Michigan | -1 |
7 | Minnesota | -1 | Minnesota | -1 |
8 | Northwestern | 0 | Indiana | +1? |
9 | Northwestern | -1 |
In this case both have PSU making it to a BCS bowl. Hopefully M can put an end to that idea Saturday afternoon...
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Wednesday, October 21, 2009
Death on the run
So I met my high school classmate Todd Pepin at the start of the Freepress/Flagstar half marathon Sunday morning. I lost track of him in Windsor when I had to take a bio-break. He ended up finishing about 8 minutes ahead of me. I think that means he was lucky enough not to see a runner dying on on the road. As I turned from Bagley onto Rosa Parks an emergency vehicle went flying past. Shortly after that the race officials started squeezing the route from the full width of the road down to just a lane or two.
Then I saw why. There were several EMT types and vehicles concentrated in a tight area. As I got to within a few feet of the grouping I saw they were giving CPR to a man on the ground. The race is so large that there was still quite a grouping of us running past a full 2 hours into the race. Plus there was a relay exchange point right near this area. Everyone, from the EMTs to the runners passing by were yelling for the guy to keep fighting.
It was a very sickening feeling. I realized I've lived a very lucky life. Death has not hit too close to my family. Even as a health care profession this is the first time I'd witnessed people urgently working to save someones life.
There doesn't seem to be an easy answer to this runner's death or the 2 others. From what I've read these were relatively experienced runners in good shape. It appears to be a horrible coincidence. If I were forced to say what I think could have caused this the only thing I could even think to pin it on was the contrast in temperatures.
It was a beautiful day to run, clear and cool. It was probably in the 30s most of the morning. One spot where it wasn't so nice was the tunnel back to the US. It is hot in there, and there is a feeling that there is no fresh air in there. Then you come back out into the cold air.
That's at around the 8 mile mark so these runners still made it another 3-5 miles. Plus they've been running this route for quite a few years - it seems like there would have been more than one death in the previous races. I just don't know.
I don't feel like this will stop me from running long distances going forward. But I will certainly take the training regimens more seriously.
Then I saw why. There were several EMT types and vehicles concentrated in a tight area. As I got to within a few feet of the grouping I saw they were giving CPR to a man on the ground. The race is so large that there was still quite a grouping of us running past a full 2 hours into the race. Plus there was a relay exchange point right near this area. Everyone, from the EMTs to the runners passing by were yelling for the guy to keep fighting.
It was a very sickening feeling. I realized I've lived a very lucky life. Death has not hit too close to my family. Even as a health care profession this is the first time I'd witnessed people urgently working to save someones life.
There doesn't seem to be an easy answer to this runner's death or the 2 others. From what I've read these were relatively experienced runners in good shape. It appears to be a horrible coincidence. If I were forced to say what I think could have caused this the only thing I could even think to pin it on was the contrast in temperatures.
It was a beautiful day to run, clear and cool. It was probably in the 30s most of the morning. One spot where it wasn't so nice was the tunnel back to the US. It is hot in there, and there is a feeling that there is no fresh air in there. Then you come back out into the cold air.
That's at around the 8 mile mark so these runners still made it another 3-5 miles. Plus they've been running this route for quite a few years - it seems like there would have been more than one death in the previous races. I just don't know.
I don't feel like this will stop me from running long distances going forward. But I will certainly take the training regimens more seriously.
Tuesday, October 20, 2009
Something to do on Sundays
I'm not sure if you told me this, or if you just mentioned him, but did you know that Ron Cameron has a show on WDFN on Sundays? I'm interested in catching it.
3rd Quarter
M has still not allowed a TD in the 3rd Quarter. Total points allowed in the 3rd is 9.
What is interesting, though, is that M has only scored 28 in the third Qtr. No, that's not interesting. What is interesting is that M has not scored a FG in the 3rd Qtr this year.
PSU hasn't allowed a TD in the 3rd QTR since the first game when they were outscored by Akron 7-0 in that QTr.
So, the 3rd Qtr this week will likely have M outscoring PSU 7-3. Or less.
What is interesting, though, is that M has only scored 28 in the third Qtr. No, that's not interesting. What is interesting is that M has not scored a FG in the 3rd Qtr this year.
PSU hasn't allowed a TD in the 3rd QTR since the first game when they were outscored by Akron 7-0 in that QTr.
So, the 3rd Qtr this week will likely have M outscoring PSU 7-3. Or less.
Monday, October 19, 2009
Shep and Sharp's Poll Question
Now, I won't be doing every poll question on every station, but only the ones I see and have any interest in. College football poll questions for sure, other M stuff and maybe the occasional other sport. I'm assuming there will be a non-sport question and, if I care about it, I will mention it.
Today, S and S have the question
Who Will Win the Big Ten?
1) Iowa
2) MSU
3) OSU
4) PSU
5) M
I think Iowa will go all the way to the OSU game without a loss and will probably lose at OSU. That will give OSU the head-to-head. Then, the only other Q will be whether Wis loses to someone on the way. Though I think Wis is probably better than everyone left on the schedule, they will lose (hopefully to M). That will give OSU the head-to-head tiebreaker and the trip to the Rose Bowl.
Today, S and S have the question
Who Will Win the Big Ten?
1) Iowa
2) MSU
3) OSU
4) PSU
5) M
I think Iowa will go all the way to the OSU game without a loss and will probably lose at OSU. That will give OSU the head-to-head. Then, the only other Q will be whether Wis loses to someone on the way. Though I think Wis is probably better than everyone left on the schedule, they will lose (hopefully to M). That will give OSU the head-to-head tiebreaker and the trip to the Rose Bowl.
PSU prediction
Because that last post was such a teaser, I thought I would due my in depth analysis to come up with my prediction. So, here it is.
PSU 26, M 22
We're still a year away from pulling these kind of games out. I still think M will finish 6-6 and lose to CMU in the Motor City Bowl.
PSU 26, M 22
We're still a year away from pulling these kind of games out. I still think M will finish 6-6 and lose to CMU in the Motor City Bowl.
Poll Question
I've decided to add this new feature to the blog. No, I'm not going to make up poll questions for all of the readers to vote on. I'm just going to make comments on various radio stations' poll questions.
The first one is a doozy from WTKA.
Who is going to win the game?
a) Penn State
b) Michigan
Unfortunately, I have not yet made my official prediction, so I won't answer at this time. I will say this, however. M will need to play better than they did against Iowa if they expect to win. I know Iowa was on the road, PSU at home, etc. blah blah. Iowa probably looks at that game as one of their worst.
That's all I got.
The first one is a doozy from WTKA.
Who is going to win the game?
a) Penn State
b) Michigan
Unfortunately, I have not yet made my official prediction, so I won't answer at this time. I will say this, however. M will need to play better than they did against Iowa if they expect to win. I know Iowa was on the road, PSU at home, etc. blah blah. Iowa probably looks at that game as one of their worst.
That's all I got.
Sunday, October 18, 2009
Big Ten Tree after an upset
As might be expected, the PU upset of OSU really readjusted the Big Ten tree. Most significantly to all of the authors here is that M falls below the giant circle that was created. Here it is:
IA
PSU
OSU-WI-MN-MSU-NU-PU
MI
IN
IL
Using this to predict the remaining games, M would finish 6-6, beating only IL.
Next week's games are IL-PU, IN-NU, MN-OSU, PSU-MI, IA-MSU. If IL, IN or M win, it will bring M into the big circle. If MSU beats IA and IL beats PU, then all 11 teams are in the circle. At that point, I think all teams are officially 0-0 and the season starts anew.
IA
PSU
OSU-WI-MN-MSU-NU-PU
MI
IN
IL
Using this to predict the remaining games, M would finish 6-6, beating only IL.
Next week's games are IL-PU, IN-NU, MN-OSU, PSU-MI, IA-MSU. If IL, IN or M win, it will bring M into the big circle. If MSU beats IA and IL beats PU, then all 11 teams are in the circle. At that point, I think all teams are officially 0-0 and the season starts anew.
Friday, October 16, 2009
NBA rule "change"
The NBA has made it official. They've changed the travelling rule to allow 2 steps. I admire their honesty, but say goodbye to fundamentals...
cfrc
With 114 rankings reporting, M is up to #34. That would mean going to VTU in the first round of a 36 team playoff.
The B10 is #6, but they are closer to #3 than they are to #7 (FBS Independents). B10 is much closer to #1 than to #8 Mountain West. The BCS conferences, at least in this system, are head and shoulders above the non-BCS conferences. I don't know if that is good or bad for college football.
The B10 is #6, but they are closer to #3 than they are to #7 (FBS Independents). B10 is much closer to #1 than to #8 Mountain West. The BCS conferences, at least in this system, are head and shoulders above the non-BCS conferences. I don't know if that is good or bad for college football.
Coaching Decisions
I think nearly everyone has commented on RR's decision to play DRob over Tate. So, I won't do that.
But, I wonder whether M should have tried the onside kick. If they hadn't, and everything from there happening the same way up to M getting the ball back, M would have ended up with the ball at the 30-ish and Denard may not have felt he had to go downfield.
Or not.
But, I wonder whether M should have tried the onside kick. If they hadn't, and everything from there happening the same way up to M getting the ball back, M would have ended up with the ball at the 30-ish and Denard may not have felt he had to go downfield.
Or not.
Thursday, October 15, 2009
Rick Leach
I'm listening to the Rick Leach interv-, er monologue from this morning and I have to say this in no uncertain terms:
RICK LEACH IS AN IDIOT
That's all I've got.
RICK LEACH IS AN IDIOT
That's all I've got.
DRob
I really don't know what went on with RR and Tate against Iowa, but last week's drive by DRob, the multiple injuries of Forcier and the low talent level of the opponent this week makes it a perfect situation for DRob to get some playing time. And, he will likely have some success. I fully expect it to be a happy day for the Laceheads (I made up that term).
Wednesday, October 14, 2009
M vs Delaware St based on historical data
This Saturday will be my 200th M football game!
M is 158-40-1 in all games I have attended (all data is based on games I have attended unless specifically mentioned)
M is 132-28-1 in games played at Michigan Stadium
M is 47-12 in non conference games
M is 0-1 against FCS opponents
M is 38-11 against "state name" State Universities (Delaware will be he 9th state in this category)
M is 20-8 when unranked
M is 13-8 when unranked playing an unranked opponent
1st game -10/30/1976 - M 45 Minnesota 0
50th game - 11/25/1989 - M 28 OSU 18
100th game - 11/1/1997 - M 24 Minnesota 3
150th game - 11/22/2003 - M 35 OSU 21
It's easy when you put it all together...
M 47 DSU 10
M is 158-40-1 in all games I have attended (all data is based on games I have attended unless specifically mentioned)
M is 132-28-1 in games played at Michigan Stadium
M is 47-12 in non conference games
M is 0-1 against FCS opponents
M is 38-11 against "state name" State Universities (Delaware will be he 9th state in this category)
M is 20-8 when unranked
M is 13-8 when unranked playing an unranked opponent
1st game -10/30/1976 - M 45 Minnesota 0
50th game - 11/25/1989 - M 28 OSU 18
100th game - 11/1/1997 - M 24 Minnesota 3
150th game - 11/22/2003 - M 35 OSU 21
It's easy when you put it all together...
M 47 DSU 10
DATE | MICH | OPPONENT | OPP | W | L | T |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
30-Oct-76 | 45 | Minnesota | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
29-Oct-77 | 23 | Iowa | 6 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
28-Oct-78 | 42 | Minnesota | 10 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
27-Oct-79 | 27 | Indiana | 21 | 4 | 0 | 0 |
25-Oct-80 | 45 | Illinois | 14 | 5 | 0 | 0 |
24-Oct-81 | 38 | Northwestern | 0 | 6 | 0 | 0 |
30-Oct-82 | 52 | Minnesota | 14 | 7 | 0 | 0 |
22-Oct-83 | 16 | Iowa | 13 | 8 | 0 | 0 |
13-Oct-84 | 31 | Northwestern | 0 | 9 | 0 | 0 |
14-Sep-85 | 20 | Notre Dame | 12 | 10 | 0 | 0 |
28-Sep-85 | 20 | Maryland | 0 | 11 | 0 | 0 |
5-Oct-85 | 33 | Wisconsin | 6 | 12 | 0 | 0 |
12-Oct-85 | 31 | Michigan St | 0 | 13 | 0 | 0 |
19-Oct-85 | 10 | Iowa | 12 | 13 | 1 | 0 |
26-Oct-85 | 42 | Indiana | 15 | 14 | 1 | 0 |
9-Nov-85 | 47 | Purdue | 0 | 15 | 1 | 0 |
23-Nov-85 | 27 | Ohio St | 17 | 16 | 1 | 0 |
20-Sep-86 | 31 | Oregon St | 12 | 17 | 1 | 0 |
27-Sep-86 | 20 | Florida St | 18 | 18 | 1 | 0 |
11-Oct-86 | 27 | Michigan St | 6 | 19 | 1 | 0 |
18-Oct-86 | 20 | Iowa | 17 | 20 | 1 | 0 |
1-Nov-86 | 69 | Illinois | 13 | 21 | 1 | 0 |
15-Nov-86 | 17 | Minnesota | 20 | 21 | 2 | 0 |
1-Jan-87 | 15 | Arizona St | 22 | 21 | 3 | 0 |
19-Sep-87 | 44 | Washington St | 18 | 22 | 3 | 0 |
26-Sep-87 | 49 | Long Beach St | 0 | 23 | 3 | 0 |
3-Oct-87 | 49 | Wisconsin | 0 | 24 | 3 | 0 |
10-Oct-87 | 11 | Michigan St | 17 | 24 | 4 | 0 |
17-Oct-87 | 37 | Iowa | 10 | 25 | 4 | 0 |
31-Oct-87 | 29 | Northwestern | 6 | 26 | 4 | 0 |
21-Nov-87 | 20 | Ohio St | 23 | 26 | 5 | 0 |
10-Sep-88 | 17 | Notre Dame | 19 | 26 | 6 | 0 |
17-Sep-88 | 30 | Miami (FL) | 31 | 26 | 7 | 0 |
24-Sep-88 | 19 | Wake Forest | 9 | 27 | 7 | 0 |
1-Oct-88 | 62 | Wisconsin | 14 | 28 | 7 | 0 |
8-Oct-88 | 17 | Michigan St | 3 | 29 | 7 | 0 |
22-Oct-88 | 31 | Indiana | 6 | 30 | 7 | 0 |
29-Oct-88 | 52 | Northwestern | 7 | 31 | 7 | 0 |
5-Nov-88 | 22 | Minnesota | 7 | 32 | 7 | 0 |
12-Nov-88 | 38 | Illinois | 9 | 33 | 7 | 0 |
2-Jan-89 | 22 | USC | 14 | 34 | 7 | 0 |
16-Sep-89 | 19 | Notre Dame | 24 | 34 | 8 | 0 |
30-Sep-89 | 41 | Maryland | 21 | 35 | 8 | 0 |
7-Oct-89 | 24 | Wisconsin | 0 | 36 | 8 | 0 |
14-Oct-89 | 10 | Michigan St | 7 | 37 | 8 | 0 |
21-Oct-89 | 26 | Iowa | 12 | 38 | 8 | 0 |
28-Oct-89 | 38 | Indiana | 10 | 39 | 8 | 0 |
4-Nov-89 | 42 | Purdue | 27 | 40 | 8 | 0 |
11-Nov-89 | 24 | Illinois | 10 | 41 | 8 | 0 |
25-Nov-89 | 28 | Ohio St | 18 | 42 | 8 | 0 |
22-Sep-90 | 38 | UCLA | 15 | 43 | 8 | 0 |
29-Sep-90 | 45 | Maryland | 17 | 44 | 8 | 0 |
13-Oct-90 | 27 | Michigan St | 28 | 44 | 9 | 0 |
20-Oct-90 | 23 | Iowa | 24 | 44 | 10 | 0 |
10-Nov-90 | 22 | Illinois | 17 | 45 | 10 | 0 |
17-Nov-90 | 35 | Minnesota | 18 | 46 | 10 | 0 |
14-Sep-91 | 24 | Notre Dame | 14 | 47 | 10 | 0 |
28-Sep-91 | 31 | Florida St | 51 | 47 | 11 | 0 |
12-Oct-91 | 45 | Michigan St | 28 | 48 | 11 | 0 |
19-Oct-91 | 24 | Indiana | 16 | 49 | 11 | 0 |
2-Nov-91 | 42 | Purdue | 0 | 50 | 11 | 0 |
9-Nov-91 | 59 | Northwestern | 14 | 51 | 11 | 0 |
23-Nov-91 | 31 | Ohio St | 3 | 52 | 11 | 0 |
19-Sep-92 | 35 | Oklahoma St | 3 | 53 | 11 | 0 |
26-Sep-92 | 61 | Houston | 7 | 54 | 11 | 0 |
3-Oct-92 | 52 | Iowa | 28 | 55 | 11 | 0 |
24-Oct-92 | 63 | Minnesota | 13 | 56 | 11 | 0 |
7-Nov-92 | 40 | Northwestern | 7 | 57 | 11 | 0 |
14-Nov-92 | 22 | Illinois | 22 | 57 | 11 | 1 |
4-Sep-93 | 41 | Washington St | 14 | 58 | 11 | 1 |
11-Sep-93 | 23 | Notre Dame | 27 | 58 | 12 | 1 |
25-Sep-93 | 42 | Houston | 21 | 59 | 12 | 1 |
2-Oct-93 | 24 | Iowa | 7 | 60 | 12 | 1 |
16-Oct-93 | 21 | Penn St | 13 | 61 | 12 | 1 |
23-Oct-93 | 21 | Illinois | 24 | 61 | 13 | 1 |
6-Nov-93 | 25 | Purdue | 10 | 62 | 13 | 1 |
20-Nov-93 | 28 | Ohio St | 0 | 63 | 13 | 1 |
3-Sep-94 | 34 | Boston College | 26 | 64 | 13 | 1 |
24-Sep-94 | 26 | Colorado | 27 | 64 | 14 | 1 |
8-Oct-94 | 40 | Michigan St | 20 | 65 | 14 | 1 |
29-Oct-94 | 19 | Wisconsin | 31 | 65 | 15 | 1 |
12-Nov-94 | 38 | Minnesota | 22 | 66 | 15 | 1 |
26-Aug-95 | 18 | Virginia | 17 | 67 | 15 | 1 |
9-Sep-95 | 24 | Memphis | 7 | 68 | 15 | 1 |
30-Sep-95 | 38 | Miami (OH) | 19 | 69 | 15 | 1 |
7-Oct-95 | 13 | Northwestern | 19 | 69 | 16 | 1 |
28-Oct-95 | 52 | Minnesota | 17 | 70 | 16 | 1 |
11-Nov-95 | 5 | Purdue | 0 | 71 | 16 | 1 |
25-Nov-95 | 31 | Ohio St | 23 | 72 | 16 | 1 |
31-Aug-96 | 20 | Illinois | 8 | 73 | 16 | 1 |
21-Sep-96 | 20 | Boston College | 14 | 74 | 16 | 1 |
28-Sep-96 | 38 | UCLA | 9 | 75 | 16 | 1 |
19-Oct-96 | 27 | Indiana | 20 | 76 | 16 | 1 |
2-Nov-96 | 45 | Michigan St | 29 | 77 | 16 | 1 |
16-Nov-96 | 17 | Penn St | 29 | 77 | 17 | 1 |
20-Sep-97 | 38 | Baylor | 3 | 78 | 17 | 1 |
27-Sep-97 | 21 | Notre Dame | 14 | 79 | 17 | 1 |
11-Oct-97 | 23 | Northwestern | 6 | 80 | 17 | 1 |
18-Oct-97 | 28 | Iowa | 24 | 81 | 17 | 1 |
1-Nov-97 | 24 | Minnesota | 3 | 82 | 17 | 1 |
22-Nov-97 | 20 | Ohio St | 14 | 83 | 17 | 1 |
1-Jan-98 | 21 | Washington St | 16 | 84 | 17 | 1 |
12-Sep-98 | 28 | Syracuse | 38 | 84 | 18 | 1 |
26-Sep-98 | 29 | Michigan St | 17 | 85 | 18 | 1 |
24-Oct-98 | 21 | Indiana | 10 | 86 | 18 | 1 |
7-Nov-98 | 27 | Penn St | 0 | 87 | 18 | 1 |
21-Nov-98 | 16 | Ohio St | 31 | 87 | 19 | 1 |
1-Jan-99 | 45 | Arkansas | 31 | 88 | 19 | 1 |
4-Sep-99 | 26 | Notre Dame | 22 | 89 | 19 | 1 |
11-Sep-99 | 37 | Rice | 3 | 90 | 19 | 1 |
25-Sep-99 | 21 | Wisconsin | 16 | 91 | 19 | 1 |
2-Oct-99 | 38 | Purdue | 12 | 92 | 19 | 1 |
23-Oct-99 | 29 | Illinois | 35 | 92 | 20 | 1 |
30-Oct-99 | 34 | Indiana | 31 | 93 | 20 | 1 |
6-Nov-99 | 37 | Northwestern | 3 | 94 | 20 | 1 |
13-Nov-99 | 31 | Penn St | 27 | 95 | 20 | 1 |
20-Nov-99 | 24 | Ohio St | 17 | 96 | 20 | 1 |
1-Jan-00 | 35 | Alabama | 34 | 97 | 20 | 1 |
2-Sep-00 | 42 | Bowling Green | 7 | 98 | 20 | 1 |
9-Sep-00 | 38 | Rice | 7 | 99 | 20 | 1 |
23-Sep-00 | 35 | Illinois | 31 | 100 | 20 | 1 |
30-Sep-00 | 13 | Wisconsin | 10 | 101 | 20 | 1 |
7-Oct-00 | 31 | Purdue | 32 | 101 | 21 | 1 |
14-Oct-00 | 58 | Indiana | 0 | 102 | 21 | 1 |
21-Oct-00 | 14 | Michigan St | 0 | 103 | 21 | 1 |
4-Nov-00 | 51 | Northwestern | 54 | 103 | 22 | 1 |
11-Nov-00 | 33 | Penn St | 11 | 104 | 22 | 1 |
1-Jan-01 | 31 | Auburn | 28 | 105 | 22 | 1 |
1-Sep-01 | 31 | Miami (OH) | 13 | 106 | 22 | 1 |
22-Sep-01 | 38 | WMU | 21 | 107 | 22 | 1 |
6-Oct-01 | 20 | Penn St | 0 | 108 | 22 | 1 |
13-Oct-01 | 24 | Purdue | 10 | 109 | 22 | 1 |
10-Nov-01 | 31 | Minnesota | 10 | 110 | 22 | 1 |
24-Nov-01 | 20 | Ohio St | 26 | 110 | 23 | 1 |
31-Aug-02 | 31 | Washington | 29 | 111 | 23 | 1 |
7-Sep-02 | 35 | WMU | 12 | 112 | 23 | 1 |
21-Sep-02 | 10 | Utah | 7 | 113 | 23 | 1 |
12-Oct-02 | 26 | Penn St | 23 | 114 | 23 | 1 |
26-Oct-02 | 9 | Iowa | 34 | 114 | 24 | 1 |
2-Nov-02 | 49 | Michigan St | 3 | 115 | 24 | 1 |
16-Nov-02 | 21 | Wisconsin | 14 | 116 | 24 | 1 |
1-Jan-03 | 38 | Florida | 30 | 117 | 24 | 1 |
30-Aug-03 | 45 | CMU | 7 | 118 | 24 | 1 |
6-Sep-03 | 50 | Houston | 3 | 119 | 24 | 1 |
13-Sep-03 | 38 | Notre Dame | 0 | 120 | 24 | 1 |
27-Sep-03 | 31 | Indiana | 17 | 121 | 24 | 1 |
18-Oct-03 | 56 | Illinois | 14 | 122 | 24 | 1 |
25-Oct-03 | 31 | Purdue | 3 | 123 | 24 | 1 |
1-Nov-03 | 27 | Michigan St | 20 | 124 | 24 | 1 |
22-Nov-03 | 35 | Ohio St | 21 | 125 | 24 | 1 |
1-Jan-04 | 14 | USC | 28 | 125 | 25 | 1 |
4-Sep-04 | 43 | Miami (OH) | 10 | 126 | 25 | 1 |
18-Sep-04 | 24 | San Diego St | 21 | 127 | 25 | 1 |
25-Sep-04 | 30 | Iowa | 17 | 128 | 25 | 1 |
9-Oct-04 | 27 | Minnesota | 24 | 129 | 25 | 1 |
30-Oct-04 | 45 | Michigan St | 37 | 130 | 25 | 1 |
13-Nov-04 | 42 | Northwestern | 20 | 131 | 25 | 1 |
1-Jan-05 | 37 | Texas | 38 | 131 | 26 | 1 |
3-Sep-05 | 33 | NIU | 17 | 132 | 26 | 1 |
10-Sep-05 | 10 | Notre Dame | 17 | 132 | 27 | 1 |
17-Sep-05 | 55 | EMU | 0 | 133 | 27 | 1 |
1-Oct-05 | 34 | Michigan St | 31 | 134 | 27 | 1 |
8-Oct-05 | 20 | Minnesota | 23 | 134 | 28 | 1 |
15-Oct-05 | 27 | Penn St | 25 | 135 | 28 | 1 |
29-Oct-05 | 33 | Northwestern | 17 | 136 | 28 | 1 |
12-Nov-05 | 41 | Indiana | 14 | 137 | 28 | 1 |
19-Nov-05 | 21 | Ohio St | 25 | 137 | 29 | 1 |
2-Sep-06 | 27 | Vanderbilt | 7 | 138 | 29 | 1 |
9-Sep-06 | 41 | CMU | 17 | 139 | 29 | 1 |
16-Sep-06 | 47 | Notre Dame | 21 | 140 | 29 | 1 |
23-Sep-06 | 27 | Wisconsin | 13 | 141 | 29 | 1 |
7-Oct-06 | 31 | Michigan St | 13 | 142 | 29 | 1 |
21-Oct-06 | 20 | Iowa | 6 | 143 | 29 | 1 |
28-Oct-06 | 17 | Northwestern | 3 | 144 | 29 | 1 |
4-Nov-06 | 34 | Ball St | 26 | 145 | 29 | 1 |
1-Jan-07 | 18 | USC | 32 | 145 | 30 | 1 |
1-Sep-07 | 32 | Appalachian St | 34 | 145 | 31 | 1 |
8-Sep-07 | 7 | Oregon | 39 | 145 | 32 | 1 |
15-Sep-07 | 38 | Notre Dame | 0 | 146 | 32 | 1 |
22-Sep-07 | 14 | Penn St | 9 | 147 | 32 | 1 |
29-Sep-07 | 28 | Northwestern | 16 | 148 | 32 | 1 |
6-Oct-07 | 33 | EMU | 22 | 149 | 32 | 1 |
13-Oct-07 | 48 | Purdue | 21 | 150 | 32 | 1 |
27-Oct-07 | 34 | Minnesota | 10 | 151 | 32 | 1 |
3-Nov-07 | 28 | Michigan St | 24 | 152 | 32 | 1 |
17-Nov-07 | 3 | Ohio St | 14 | 152 | 33 | 1 |
30-Aug-08 | 23 | Utah | 25 | 152 | 34 | 1 |
6-Sep-08 | 16 | Miami (OH) | 6 | 153 | 34 | 1 |
27-Sep-08 | 27 | Wisconsin | 25 | 154 | 34 | 1 |
4-Oct-08 | 20 | Illinois | 45 | 154 | 35 | 1 |
11-Oct-08 | 10 | Toledo | 13 | 154 | 36 | 1 |
25-Oct-08 | 21 | Michigan St | 35 | 154 | 37 | 1 |
1-Nov-08 | 42 | Purdue | 48 | 154 | 38 | 1 |
15-Nov-08 | 14 | Northwestern | 21 | 154 | 39 | 1 |
5-Sep-09 | 31 | WMU | 7 | 155 | 39 | 1 |
12-Sep-09 | 38 | Notre Dame | 34 | 156 | 39 | 1 |
19-Sep-09 | 45 | EMU | 17 | 157 | 39 | 1 |
26-Sep-09 | 36 | Indiana | 33 | 158 | 39 | 1 |
3-Oct-09 | 20 | Michigan St | 26 | 158 | 40 | 1 |
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The remaining games
What is interesting about the remaining 6 games is that 3 of them are 5-1 and 3 have one win (1-3, 1-4, 1-5).
Del St is an easy win.
Illinois will hopefully not get anything together the rest of the year, or at least when they play M.
But PU is interesting:
Purdue has played a lot of closed games. What is really interesting about them is that every team they have played so far is .500 or above. If Toledo beats N. Ill this week, then all of the teams they have played have a winning record. They play OSU this week.
On the 5-1 side, there is...
PSU. They have had no close games. That may be an advantage for M
Wis. After they play Iowa, I'll have an opinion about this team
OSU. Seeing that they are from down south, I'm hoping the bad Michigan weather will be difficult for them.
Midseason prediction: No upsets. We'll win the first 3 above, lost the others. 7-5
Del St is an easy win.
Illinois will hopefully not get anything together the rest of the year, or at least when they play M.
But PU is interesting:
Purdue has played a lot of closed games. What is really interesting about them is that every team they have played so far is .500 or above. If Toledo beats N. Ill this week, then all of the teams they have played have a winning record. They play OSU this week.
On the 5-1 side, there is...
PSU. They have had no close games. That may be an advantage for M
Wis. After they play Iowa, I'll have an opinion about this team
OSU. Seeing that they are from down south, I'm hoping the bad Michigan weather will be difficult for them.
Midseason prediction: No upsets. We'll win the first 3 above, lost the others. 7-5
cfrc
With 111 rankings reporting, M is #35. In a 36 team playoff, M would go to Alabama in the first round.
Based on this, M will go 7-4. With home/road considered nothing would change.
Based on this, M will go 7-4. With home/road considered nothing would change.
Tuesday, October 13, 2009
Midseason prediction review
Back in July I predicted M would finish 8-5 and would be 4-2 at this point.
WMU W
Notre Dame L
EMU W
Indiana W
@ MSU W
@ Iowa L
Delaware St W
Penn St L
@ Illinois L
Purdue W
@ Wisconsin W
OSU L
Bowl (Champs Sports or Motor City) W
I got the ND and MSU results reversed. Looking forward, I think I would switch @Illinois to a win and be less confident about the Wisconsin win. I think 8-5 is still likely, with a better chance of 9 wins then 6.
WMU W
Notre Dame L
EMU W
Indiana W
@ MSU W
@ Iowa L
Delaware St W
Penn St L
@ Illinois L
Purdue W
@ Wisconsin W
OSU L
Bowl (Champs Sports or Motor City) W
I got the ND and MSU results reversed. Looking forward, I think I would switch @Illinois to a win and be less confident about the Wisconsin win. I think 8-5 is still likely, with a better chance of 9 wins then 6.
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ESPN Bowl Predictions Vol 7
Latest ESPN Bowl predictions here
A new prediction for M's bowl hopes this week:
I think the Alamo is a step up from the Champs so apparently Schlabach was impressed by the loss.
Overall the Big1T1en looks like this:
Really not much change at all. Schlabach has OSU in a second BCS bowl which shifts everyone up a bowl.
Florida vs. Texas is back to the championship game for both of them.
A new prediction for M's bowl hopes this week:
Week | Schlabach | Feldman |
---|---|---|
Pre | Champs | PapaJohns.com |
1 | Alamo | Alamo |
2 | Outback | Outback |
3 | Cap One | Outback |
4 | Outback | Outback |
5 | Champs | Champs |
6 | Alamo | Champs |
I think the Alamo is a step up from the Champs so apparently Schlabach was impressed by the loss.
Overall the Big1T1en looks like this:
Place | Schlabach | Change | Feldman | Change |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Iowa | +1 | Iowa | 0 |
2 | OSU | -1 | OSU | 0 |
3 | PSU | 0 | Wisconsin | 0 |
4 | Wisconsin | 0 | PSU | 0 |
5 | Michigan | 0 | Michigan | 0 |
6 | Minnesota | 0 | Minnesota | 0 |
7 | MSU | 0 | MSU | 0 |
8 | Northwestern | 0? | Northwestern | 0 |
Really not much change at all. Schlabach has OSU in a second BCS bowl which shifts everyone up a bowl.
Florida vs. Texas is back to the championship game for both of them.
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Monday, October 12, 2009
Big Ten Tree
The current B10 tree looks like this:
IA - OSU
PSU - Wis
MN - MSU
MI - IL - NU
IN - PU
No circles yet. If PU upsets OSU, that may be the only way a circle could exist after next week.
Using the tree as a predictor, M will go 1-4 (home team wins same level games) from here. That would be 6-6 overall (assuming victory over Del St.).
IA - OSU
PSU - Wis
MN - MSU
MI - IL - NU
IN - PU
No circles yet. If PU upsets OSU, that may be the only way a circle could exist after next week.
Using the tree as a predictor, M will go 1-4 (home team wins same level games) from here. That would be 6-6 overall (assuming victory over Del St.).
Sunday, October 11, 2009
Iowa Thoughts
The main concern about DRob going in when he did was WHY was he going in? I was surprised at how much RR yelled at Tate, and it almost seemed like he benched him because he was mad at him. I've never really thought RR was like that, and I hope he isn't. But if he isn't, then the question is why he didn't put Tate back in for that second drive. With such little time left, it was clear we needed someone who could successfully throw downfield. I don't know the complete stats, but I know DRob now has 3 interceptions on throws downfield. I really liked the way he handled his drive. Running for 5, making the short pass for the first down. He did a very good job. His last play wasn't a run, nor a short pass.
The game was disaapointing, and at the same time it was encouraging. You really have to believe M can play with anyone in the Big Ten now. Of course, with the number of mistakes not decreasing each game, you could probably be concerned M could lose to anyone in the Big Ten. I'm going to think of the positive on this one.
Woolfolk seemed to be good. Williams made a bad decision and isn't good enough to recover. Warren made a couple very good plays. I'm glad he is playing for M.
Other than Zoltan's punts, the special teams were terrible. Bad KOR, bad KO coverage, bad punt coverage, and a dropped punt return. I guess the PAT team was good.
I expect to hear about the youth of the team making mistakes, etc. Of course, the muffed punt and probably the most costly of the fumbles were by seniors. If the muffed punt hadn't taken place, than a senior ruffed the kicker anyhow.
The D really did a good job most of the time.
It sounded like there were almost no Michigan fans at the game.
Kinnick Stadium the best stadium in the Big Ten? They've clearly never been to Northwestern.
The game was disaapointing, and at the same time it was encouraging. You really have to believe M can play with anyone in the Big Ten now. Of course, with the number of mistakes not decreasing each game, you could probably be concerned M could lose to anyone in the Big Ten. I'm going to think of the positive on this one.
Woolfolk seemed to be good. Williams made a bad decision and isn't good enough to recover. Warren made a couple very good plays. I'm glad he is playing for M.
Other than Zoltan's punts, the special teams were terrible. Bad KOR, bad KO coverage, bad punt coverage, and a dropped punt return. I guess the PAT team was good.
I expect to hear about the youth of the team making mistakes, etc. Of course, the muffed punt and probably the most costly of the fumbles were by seniors. If the muffed punt hadn't taken place, than a senior ruffed the kicker anyhow.
The D really did a good job most of the time.
It sounded like there were almost no Michigan fans at the game.
Kinnick Stadium the best stadium in the Big Ten? They've clearly never been to Northwestern.
thoughts on M @ iowa
So Iowa was pretty much what we expected - our predictions had them scoring 30 and 31 points. Michigan did better than we predicted 28 vs the 17 and 19 we predicted. I guess that is promising.
I thought Woolfolk looked like an improvement at corner over the previous options. The play of the safeties leaves a lot to be desired. How does Williams let someone get behind him on a third and 24? Kovacs looks great against the run (although he did have at least one costly missed tackle) he appears lost/very slow in coverage.
Offensively, you have to be pleased with Minor - except of course the very costly fumble.
This game was maybe more disappointing to me because I felt M was good enough to win for 60 minutes not 5-10 minutes like last week. They made too many mistakes.
I wasn't pleased with Denard coming in when he did but I can't argue with the results of his first drive. Not sure how a team supposedly as strong as Iowa defensively allows a qb who; let's be honest; does not have the pass portion of the offense in his grasp at this point, to march the team down the field as quickly as they did.
I guess I can see why RR sent him back out there, but I was hoping from Forcier. I thought 5 weeks of 4th quarter playmaking was worth giving him another chance over one drive from Denard. I was hoping Denard would prove me wrong, he didn't.
It looks like he panicked on that interception. He probably hasn't had enough game speed action to be fully prepared in that situation. I guess this week is a good chance to get him more snaps against Delaware St.
I thought Woolfolk looked like an improvement at corner over the previous options. The play of the safeties leaves a lot to be desired. How does Williams let someone get behind him on a third and 24? Kovacs looks great against the run (although he did have at least one costly missed tackle) he appears lost/very slow in coverage.
Offensively, you have to be pleased with Minor - except of course the very costly fumble.
This game was maybe more disappointing to me because I felt M was good enough to win for 60 minutes not 5-10 minutes like last week. They made too many mistakes.
I wasn't pleased with Denard coming in when he did but I can't argue with the results of his first drive. Not sure how a team supposedly as strong as Iowa defensively allows a qb who; let's be honest; does not have the pass portion of the offense in his grasp at this point, to march the team down the field as quickly as they did.
I guess I can see why RR sent him back out there, but I was hoping from Forcier. I thought 5 weeks of 4th quarter playmaking was worth giving him another chance over one drive from Denard. I was hoping Denard would prove me wrong, he didn't.
It looks like he panicked on that interception. He probably hasn't had enough game speed action to be fully prepared in that situation. I guess this week is a good chance to get him more snaps against Delaware St.
Saturday, October 10, 2009
Friday, October 9, 2009
CFRC
With 96 reporting, M is #35. In a 36 team playoff, M would go to Florida in the first round. In a 72 team playoff, M would host
Projected record (no home / road adjustment) 7-5 (losses to IA, OSU, PSU, Wis). With home/road adjustment, no change. The nearest future home opponent above is PSU at #18. The nearest future road opponent below is #90 Illinois. Therefore, M is more likely to beat PSU at home than lose to IL on the road.
I don't think I believe that.
Projected record (no home / road adjustment) 7-5 (losses to IA, OSU, PSU, Wis). With home/road adjustment, no change. The nearest future home opponent above is PSU at #18. The nearest future road opponent below is #90 Illinois. Therefore, M is more likely to beat PSU at home than lose to IL on the road.
I don't think I believe that.
Our predictions, your rant and misc.
We both predicted 30 or more points for the Hawkeyes tomorrow night. Sam Webb just told me (on the radio) that he doesn't think Iowa can score that many points. If Iowa is going to win it will be in a low scoring game, M will win a higher scoring game.
Much to my surprise, Ira actually pointed out that M has given up 30+ points to Indiana, so why not Iowa.
Sam may be right, but the way he says things with such condescension for people who don't see things the way he does is ridiculous. Have you ever looked at his GoBlueMichigan Wolverine magazine or website? I can't imagine I would be too excited by the content.
MGoidiots and their love for "Shoelaces" are ridiculous. When he went out for that drive in the 4th quarter - I couldn't believe it. For me that was throwing away any chance for that drive. It reminded me of Carr putting the kid from OLSM in for Navarre on the 1-2 yard line against OSU in 2001. High chance for fail.
I would prefer he works on being the best option as a back-up QB then spend reps in practice working on double QB sets. We've seen Forcier get banged around a bit already. Having to rely on Sheridan or an unprepared Robinson would not be good.
I was glad to see MGoBrian agreed with me on the missed block by Minor last week. Brown had open field if Minor drops that defender and he whiffed.
Finally, Gladstone plays Esky tonight. Both teams have only one loss. Should be a good one. Go Braves!
Much to my surprise, Ira actually pointed out that M has given up 30+ points to Indiana, so why not Iowa.
Sam may be right, but the way he says things with such condescension for people who don't see things the way he does is ridiculous. Have you ever looked at his GoBlueMichigan Wolverine magazine or website? I can't imagine I would be too excited by the content.
MGoidiots and their love for "Shoelaces" are ridiculous. When he went out for that drive in the 4th quarter - I couldn't believe it. For me that was throwing away any chance for that drive. It reminded me of Carr putting the kid from OLSM in for Navarre on the 1-2 yard line against OSU in 2001. High chance for fail.
I would prefer he works on being the best option as a back-up QB then spend reps in practice working on double QB sets. We've seen Forcier get banged around a bit already. Having to rely on Sheridan or an unprepared Robinson would not be good.
I was glad to see MGoBrian agreed with me on the missed block by Minor last week. Brown had open field if Minor drops that defender and he whiffed.
Finally, Gladstone plays Esky tonight. Both teams have only one loss. Should be a good one. Go Braves!
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Thursday, October 8, 2009
Re Robinson: SHUT UP!!!
I am tired of hearing people say they need to get Denard Robinson involved in the offense more, etc etc. Don't they think RR would do that if he could? DRob is likely not ready to run the offense, therefore he won't.
Then, the thing I hear/read related to this is how RR should put DRob in the backfield with Forcier. Again, do you think RR hasn't thought of that? And if he has, do you think you wouldn't have done it last week, for instance, if he thought it would work? Again, DRob can't be a blocking back, we don't know if he can catch, so putting him back there is either to give him the ball or be a decoy and RR doesn't think there is much value in either.
I DO think it would be nice to find a way to get DRob the ball in open field. Of course, it would be nice if Stonum, Odoms or Carlos Brown could get the ball in the open field, too.
So, to all of you people who have a love affair with DRob (because of 3 plays and 2 shoelaces), SHUT UP!!!! (i say this here, because I don't want to say it in person and get a black eye)
Then, the thing I hear/read related to this is how RR should put DRob in the backfield with Forcier. Again, do you think RR hasn't thought of that? And if he has, do you think you wouldn't have done it last week, for instance, if he thought it would work? Again, DRob can't be a blocking back, we don't know if he can catch, so putting him back there is either to give him the ball or be a decoy and RR doesn't think there is much value in either.
I DO think it would be nice to find a way to get DRob the ball in open field. Of course, it would be nice if Stonum, Odoms or Carlos Brown could get the ball in the open field, too.
So, to all of you people who have a love affair with DRob (because of 3 plays and 2 shoelaces), SHUT UP!!!! (i say this here, because I don't want to say it in person and get a black eye)
Wednesday, October 7, 2009
M vs. Iowa pick based on historical data
M is 876-296-36 in all games
M is 718-256-35 in games I have not attended
M is 30-7-4 in games vs. Iowa that I have not attended (5-2-1 since I first saw M play Iowa)
It's simple when you go by the numbers
M 17
Iowa 31
M is 718-256-35 in games I have not attended
M is 30-7-4 in games vs. Iowa that I have not attended (5-2-1 since I first saw M play Iowa)
It's simple when you go by the numbers
M 17
Iowa 31
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Big Ten Tree (future, possible)
With the predictions of Ia, OSU, MSU, PU winning this week.
OSU - IA
WI - PSU
PU-NU-MN-MSU
MI-IL
IN
In this scenario, the only circle is PU/NU/MN.
OSU - IA
WI - PSU
PU-NU-MN-MSU
MI-IL
IN
In this scenario, the only circle is PU/NU/MN.
Tuesday, October 6, 2009
Big Ten Tree
Using the tree method of evaluating the Big Ten, I come up with this currently (conference games only):
Iowa - Wis - OSU
PSU - MSU - MN
Ill - MI - NU
Ind - PU
A loss to IA really wouldn't change anything for M. MSU losing to IL would drop M, though.
If non-conference games are thrown in, then MI will move up with at least MSU. I'll try to do that later.
Iowa - Wis - OSU
PSU - MSU - MN
Ill - MI - NU
Ind - PU
A loss to IA really wouldn't change anything for M. MSU losing to IL would drop M, though.
If non-conference games are thrown in, then MI will move up with at least MSU. I'll try to do that later.
Monday, October 5, 2009
Cabrera, wtf
Did you hear about Miguel Cabrera's run-ins (yes plural) with the POlice this weekend. They came and kicked him out of the White Sox hotel in Birmingham where he was drinking with his buddies from the Sox. Then they were called to his home to break up a fight between he and his wife.
The fact that he went 0-11 in the series makes a little more sense now. Being hung-over and scratched up from the fight with his wife.
Hopefully he can pull himself together and play well Tuesday, otherwise he's in for a LONG offseason.
The fact that he went 0-11 in the series makes a little more sense now. Being hung-over and scratched up from the fight with his wife.
Hopefully he can pull himself together and play well Tuesday, otherwise he's in for a LONG offseason.
ESPN Bowl Predictions Vol 6
Link to full ESPN picks here
M's loss drops them a little in the bowl picture - but they go up against 1/2 of a BCS team this week. The "experts" have them facing BC or UNC. Any match-up with and ACC team might be the best hope for M. Note it is imperative the ACC team is not VaTech or, to a lesser extent, Miami (YTM).
I think that is quite a fall but probably more realistic.
Interpreted full BigT1e1n rankings
This makes it looks like M likely has 4 losses left on their schedule. Purdue is hard to read, they've played well at times but not enough to win. Illinois appears to be awful, but who knows if they get it together against M's defense. Hopefully Delaware St is an auto win.
Schlabach has moved Alabama ahead of Florida into the BCS championship game vs. Texas, while Feldman still has the UF-UT match-up.
M's loss drops them a little in the bowl picture - but they go up against 1/2 of a BCS team this week. The "experts" have them facing BC or UNC. Any match-up with and ACC team might be the best hope for M. Note it is imperative the ACC team is not VaTech or, to a lesser extent, Miami (YTM).
Week | Schlabach | Feldman |
---|---|---|
Pre | Champs | PapaJohns.com |
1 | Alamo | Alamo |
2 | Outback | Outback |
3 | Capital One | Outback |
4 | Outback | Outback |
5 | Champs | Champs |
I think that is quite a fall but probably more realistic.
Interpreted full BigT1e1n rankings
Place | Schlabach | Change | Feldman | Change |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | OSU | +1 | Iowa | 0 |
2 | Iowa | -1 | OSU | 0 |
3 | PSU | 0 | Wisconsin | +3 |
4 | Wisconsin | +1 | PSU | 0 |
5 | Michigan | -1 | Michigan | -2 |
6 | Minnesota | +1 | Minnesota | -1 |
7 | MSU | +2? | MSU | 0 |
8 | Northwestern | 0 |
This makes it looks like M likely has 4 losses left on their schedule. Purdue is hard to read, they've played well at times but not enough to win. Illinois appears to be awful, but who knows if they get it together against M's defense. Hopefully Delaware St is an auto win.
Schlabach has moved Alabama ahead of Florida into the BCS championship game vs. Texas, while Feldman still has the UF-UT match-up.
Sunday, October 4, 2009
Gladstone, Hillman
Gladstone has moved up in the playoff point race to #80 (out of 618 in the state). Hillman has moved up to #16 in Class D.
I'm not sure what number Tecumseh is, but they are actually about 85 spots below Hillman in overall points.
I'm not sure what number Tecumseh is, but they are actually about 85 spots below Hillman in overall points.
Saturday, October 3, 2009
M v MSU thoughts
I thought MSU was the better team for 3.5 quarters, but I don't think they dominated. Maybe they shot themselves in the foot too often, but they got breaks from M as well.
Would you like to have the fake punt back? Just go for it or at least call it off when you see they seem to have it snuffed out. Then they don't go for it on 4th and 1 at the 35 on the next drive.
I know they want to give Denard playing time. But that series early in the 4th quarter smelled of fail at the time. And given what Tate did the rest of the game, I would like to have that series back too.
That 10 minute drive in the 1st quarter was ridiculous. Three 15 yard penalties and they still march down the field and score. M never seemed to adjust to the bubble/fake bubble sweep the other way. One good thing is Graham finally got a sack - and caused a fumble on the play to boot. It is unfortunate he took himself out on the play Heininger got de-pantsed by Nichol (I think).
Iowa's score today seemed unimpressive - maybe that's some hope.
Would you like to have the fake punt back? Just go for it or at least call it off when you see they seem to have it snuffed out. Then they don't go for it on 4th and 1 at the 35 on the next drive.
I know they want to give Denard playing time. But that series early in the 4th quarter smelled of fail at the time. And given what Tate did the rest of the game, I would like to have that series back too.
That 10 minute drive in the 1st quarter was ridiculous. Three 15 yard penalties and they still march down the field and score. M never seemed to adjust to the bubble/fake bubble sweep the other way. One good thing is Graham finally got a sack - and caused a fumble on the play to boot. It is unfortunate he took himself out on the play Heininger got de-pantsed by Nichol (I think).
Iowa's score today seemed unimpressive - maybe that's some hope.
Quick Analysis of the MSU game
With MSU dominating most of 3 1/2 quarters, and whenever they did make a mistake, M didn't really take advantage of it for most of that time, M fans should be semi-pleased coming out of there with an OT loss.
There were enough things in this game that makes me still have some hope of winning some of those road games. At least, being in them. Karsch said he thinks the D turned a corner in this game. I think the D was inconsistent as usual. I hope Karsch is right.
One bright note: M still hasn't allowed a TD in the 3rd quarter.
There were enough things in this game that makes me still have some hope of winning some of those road games. At least, being in them. Karsch said he thinks the D turned a corner in this game. I think the D was inconsistent as usual. I hope Karsch is right.
One bright note: M still hasn't allowed a TD in the 3rd quarter.
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