Friday, October 23, 2009

Update to the All-time college football mythical traveling trophy

As discussed here we have been trying to track the ownership of the mythical all-time traveling trophy in college football going back to the original Rutgers-Princeton match-up in 1869.

I sent for help to Greg from MVictors he gave me some good ideas to continue searching including finding a WV Wesleyan game we had missed. A 3-0 loss to Lehigh in 1925. There is still work to be done. I've posted the updated chain below.

The major areas of discomfort are the WV Wesleyan area in 1925. If this holds up the next problem might be in 1931-32 when the cup passes into the hands of Olympia Club. I was able to find a relatively quick loss for them, but over what would be a full season I can only find 3-4 games for them. Since I'm not sure what the Olympia Club was, it is certainly possible that I've missed some of their games.

Here's the updated trail of the cup:


Date wondate lostHolderGamesWLT
11/6/186911/13/1869Rutgers2110
11/13/186911/30/1876Princeton111010
11/30/187611/28/1878Yale11911
11/28/187811/18/1882Princeton262114
11/18/188211/25/1882Harvard1010
11/25/188211/21/1885Yale272511
11/21/188511/12/1887Princeton171511
11/12/188711/24/1887Harvard2110
11/24/188711/28/1889Yale302910
11/28/188911/27/1890Princeton141211
11/27/189011/30/1893Yale373610
11/30/189311/10/1894Princeton8710
11/10/189410/24/1896Penn262510
10/24/189610/23/1897Lafayette131111
10/23/189711/5/1898Penn161510
11/5/189811/24/1900Harvard242211
11/24/190011/23/1901Yale131111
11/23/190111/22/1902Harvard131111
11/22/190211/14/1903Yale121110
11/14/190310/15/1904Princeton6510
10/15/190410/29/1904Navy3111
10/29/190410/7/1905Swarthmore3210
10/7/190510/13/1906Penn151212
10/13/190611/10/1906Swarthmore4310
11/10/190610/19/1907Navy9711
10/19/190711/9/2007Harvard3210
11/9/200711/7/1908Carlisle10811
11/7/190811/20/1909Harvard111010
11/20/190910/15/1910Yale5410
10/15/191010/29/1910Army211
10/29/191011/4/1911Harvard9711
11/4/191111/2/1912Princeton9810
11/2/191210/23/1915Harvard262312
10/23/191510/28/1916Cornell8710
10/28/191611/18/1916Harvard321
11/18/191611/25/1916Brown101
11/25/191610/27/1917Colgate321
10/27/191711/3/1917Brown101
11/3/191711/16/1918Syracuse871
11/16/191810/25/1919MICHIGAN541
10/25/191911/22/1919OSU321
11/22/191911/13/1920Illinois651
11/13/192011/19/1921Wisconsin8611
11/19/192110/28/1922Chicago431
10/28/192210/20/1923Princeton651
10/20/192311/10/1923Notre Dame321
11/10/192311/24/1923Nebraska211
11/24/192311/8/1924Syracuse7511
11/8/192410/17/1925West Virginia Wesleyan211
10/17/192510/31/1925Lehigh211
10/31/192511/26/1925Mulenberg (PA)321
11/26/19259/25/1926Villanova101
9/25/192610/2/1926Lebanon Valley (PA)101
10/2/192610/16/1926Penn State211
10/16/192611/27/1926Notre Dame651
11/27/192610/15/1927Carnegie Tech431
10/15/192710/13/1928Washington & Jefferson8512
10/13/192810/27/1928Duquesne211
10/27/1928?Geneva (PA)101
?11/17/1928Grove City2011
11/17/192811/9/1929Villanova8611
11/9/192911/23/1929Bucknell211
11/23/192911/15/1930Fordham871
11/15/193011/7/1931St. Mary's871
11/7/19319/17/1932Olympic Club101
9/17/193210/22/1932Stanford541
10/22/193211/11/1933USC131111
11/11/19331/1/1934Stanford321
1/1/193410/20/1934Columbia321
10/20/193411/17/1934Navy431
11/17/193410/19/1935Pittsburgh541
10/19/193511/19/1935Notre Dame321
11/19/193511/21/1936Northwestern10811
11/21/193610/16/1937Notre Dame4112
10/16/193710/23/1937Carnegie Tech101
10/23/193711/6/1937Temple2011
11/6/19371/1/1938Michigan St211
1/1/193810/8/1938Auburn3111
10/8/19381/1/1940Tennessee19181
1/1/194010/26/1940USC5212
10/26/194010/11/1941Stanford871
10/11/194110/25/1941Oregon State101
10/25/194112/6/1941Washington St541
12/6/19411/1/1942Texas A&M101
1/1/194210/31/1942Alabama651
10/31/194211/21/1942Georgia321
11/21/194210/14/1944Auburn431
10/14/194411/4/1944Georgia Tech321
11/4/194410/6/1945Duke761
10/6/194512/1/1945Navy7511
12/1/194510/25/1947Army151212
10/25/194710/2/1948Columbia651
10/2/194810/9/1948Harvard101
10/9/194810/23/1948Cornell211
10/23/194812/2/1950Army222011
12/2/195010/6/1951Navy2011
10/6/195110/11/1952Princeton1091
10/11/195211/1/1952Penn3111
11/1/195211/8/1952Penn State101
11/8/19521/1/1953Syracuse321
1/1/19539/18/1953Alabama101
9/18/195310/31/1953So. Mississippi541
10/31/195311/7/1953Memphis101
11/7/195310/2/1954Arkansas St6411
10/2/195410/15/1954Mississippi St211
10/15/195411/6/1954Miami (FL)321
11/6/195410/29/1955Auburn10811
10/29/195511/12/1955Tulane211
11/12/195511/26/1955Vanderbilt211
11/26/19551/1/1957Tennessee11101
1/1/195710/5/1957Baylor321
10/5/195710/11/1957Miami (FL)101
10/11/195710/19/1957North Carolina101
10/19/195710/26/1957Maryland101
10/26/195711/16/1957Tennessee211
11/16/195711/1/1958Mississippi9711
11/1/195811/7/1959LSU12111
11/7/195911/14/1959Tennessee101
11/14/195911/4/1961Mississippi201811
11/4/196111/3/1962LSU11911
11/3/19621/1/1964Mississippi141112
1/1/19641/1/1965Alabama11101
1/1/196510/16/1965Texas541
10/16/19651/1/1966Arkansas651
1/1/19669/24/1966LSU211
9/24/196610/1/1966Rice101
10/1/196610/8/1966Tennessee101
10/8/196611/26/1966Georgia Tech651
11/26/196610/14/1967Georgia541
10/14/196711/18/1967Mississippi4211
11/18/19671/1/1968Tennessee321
1/1/19689/21/1968Oklahoma101
9/21/19689/28/1968Notre Dame101
9/28/196810/12/1968Purdue211
10/12/196811/22/1969OSU16151
11/22/19691/1/1970MICHIGAN101
1/1/197010/10/1970USC5311
10/10/197011/14/1970Stanford541
11/14/197011/21/1970Air Force101
11/21/197012/12/1970Colorado101
12/12/19709/18/1971Tulane211
9/18/197111/13/1971Georgia871
11/13/197111/27/1971Auburn101
11/27/19711/1/1972Alabama101
1/1/19729/9/1972Nebraska101
9/9/19729/23/1972UCLA211
9/23/197211/25/1972MICHIGAN981
11/25/19721/1/1973OSU101
1/1/197310/27/1973USC7511
10/27/19739/28/1974Notre Dame871
9/28/197410/5/1974Purdue101
10/5/197410/19/1974Duke211
10/19/197410/26/1974Clemson101
10/26/19749/20/1975Tennessee7511
9/20/197510/4/1975UCLA2011
10/4/19751/1/1976OSU871
1/1/197611/20/1976UCLA11911
11/20/197610/8/1977USC761
10/8/19779/23/1978Alabama1091
9/23/197810/14/1978USC211
10/14/197810/28/1978Arizona St101
10/28/197811/11/1978Washington211
11/11/197811/15/1980USC252212
11/15/19801/1/1981Washington211
1/1/19819/12/1981MICHIGAN101
9/12/19819/19/1981Wisconsin101
9/19/19819/26/1981UCLA101
9/26/198110/24/1981Iowa431
10/24/198110/31/1981Minnesota101
10/31/198111/21/1981MICHIGAN321
11/21/19819/25/1982OSU431
9/25/198210/9/1982Stanford211
10/9/198211/13/1982Arizona St431
11/13/198211/20/1982Washington101
11/20/19829/10/1983Washington St211
9/10/19839/17/1983MICHIGAN101
9/17/19839/24/1983Washington101
9/24/198310/1/1983LSU101
10/1/198310/29/1983Florida321
10/29/19838/27/1984Auburn541
8/27/19849/8/1984Miami (FL)211
9/8/19849/15/1984MICHIGAN101
9/15/198411/10/1984Washington871
11/10/198411/17/1984USC101
11/17/19849/28/1985UCLA5311
9/28/198510/19/1985Washington321
10/19/198511/2/1985Oregon State101
11/2/198511/9/1985Arizona101
11/9/198511/23/1985UCLA211
11/23/198512/28/1985USC211
12/28/198510/25/1986Alabama871
10/25/19869/12/1987Penn State761
9/12/19879/19/1987Alabama101
9/19/198710/3/1987Florida211
10/3/198711/7/1987LSU431
11/7/198711/14/1987Alabama101
11/14/198711/21/1987Notre Dame101
11/21/19871/1/1988Penn State101
1/1/19889/17/1988Clemson321
9/17/19889/2/1989Florida St1091
9/2/19899/9/1989So. Mississippi101
9/9/19899/23/1989Mississippi St101
9/23/19899/30/1989Georgia101
9/30/198910/28/1989South Carolina321
10/28/198911/4/1989NC State101
11/4/19891/1/1990Virginia321
1/1/19909/8/1990Illinois101
9/8/19909/29/1990Arizona321
9/29/199010/27/1990California431
10/27/199011/10/1990Washington211
11/10/199011/17/1990UCLA101
11/17/199011/24/1990USC101
11/24/19901/1/1991Notre Dame101
1/1/19919/14/1991Colorado211
9/14/199110/12/1991Baylor431
10/12/199110/19/1991Rice101
10/19/199110/26/1991TCU101
10/26/199111/16/1991Baylor211
11/16/19919/3/1992Texas Tech211
9/3/19929/19/1992Oklahoma211
9/19/199210/3/1992USC101
10/3/199211/7/1992Washington541
11/7/199211/14/1992Arizona101
11/14/199211/21/1992USC101
11/21/19929/4/1993UCLA101
9/4/199310/9/1993California541
10/9/199310/16/1993Washington101
10/16/199311/13/1993UCLA431
11/13/199311/26/1993Arizona St101
11/26/199310/8/1994Arizona651
10/8/199410/22/1994Colorado St211
10/22/199411/5/1994Utah211
11/5/199411/12/1994New Mexico101
11/12/19949/9/1995Wyoming211
9/9/19959/16/1995Air Force101
9/16/19959/30/1995Colorado St101
9/30/199510/14/1995BYU101
10/14/199511/24/1995Arizona St431
11/24/19959/7/1996Arizona211
9/7/19969/21/1996Iowa211
9/21/199610/19/1996Tulsa321
10/19/19969/6/1997BYU871
9/6/19979/20/1997Washington211
9/20/199710/10/1998Nebraska16151
10/10/199811/27/1998Texas A&M651
11/27/19988/28/1999Texas110
8/28/19999/18/1999NC State321
9/18/199910/7/2000Florida St15141
10/7/20001/3/2003Miami (FL)32311
1/3/200310/11/2003OSU651
10/11/200310/18/2003Wisconsin101
10/18/200310/25/2003Purdue101
10/25/20031/1/2004MICHIGAN431
1/1/20041/4/2006USC26251
1/4/20069/9/2006Texas211
9/9/20061/8/2007OSU11101
1/8/20079/29/2007Florida541
9/29/200710/20/2007Auburn321
10/20/200711/23/2007LSU431
11/23/20071/1/2008Arkansas101
1/1/200810/11/2008Missouri651
10/11/200810/25/2008Oklahoma St211
10/25/200811/1/2008Texas101
11/1/200811/22/2008Texas Tech211
11/22/20081/8/2009Oklahoma321
1/8/2009
12/5/2009
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Sources include the James Howell database of scores, the College Football Data Warehouse, various media guides from small colleges in Pennsylvania and as mentioned above some help from Greg from MVictors.

6 comments:

  1. I also tracked Michigan's record in "trophy" games. M is 25-19-1 overall (22-10-1 against teams that aren't OSU or USC). They first played for the cup vs Princeton in 1881 and last played for it in the epic 2006 battle with OSU. Their lone tie occurred when Wisconsin held (and retained) the cup in 1921.

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  2. Guys, I love this idea, and I appreciate the amount of research you have put in to it. When you've fleshed it out, you should pass it along to some of the big boys, I think it could become a thing.

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  3. Olympic Club is an athletic club based in San Francisco. Until the mid-1930s, they played west coast college teams in football. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Club

    Olympic Club lost a game during the 1931 season to Loyola Marymount, 13-0. http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/discontinued/l/loyola_marymount/yearly_results.php?year=1930

    The date for this game is less than certain, but I believe that it took place on Nov. 21 at Wrigley Field in Los Angeles. http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=nNMKAAAAIBAJ&sjid=8E8DAAAAIBAJ&pg=3471,2223277&dq=olympic+club&hl=en

    Thus, I think Loyola gets the cup on that date.

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  4. mosenga,

    Thanks for the tip. I'll follow up!

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  5. Love this, especially as a Chicago alum who now works at a big football school.

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  6. Just ran across this; pretty awesome. Keep with it.

    I love how many of the recent games where the trophy has changed hands have been memorable. USC-Texas MNC game, the Harrell to Crabtree game, etc. But what's up with the WAC getting hold of it all through 94-95?

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